Monday, December 23, 2013

WHY MARIJUANA SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOREVER: EPISODE 1

Why Marijuana Should Be Illegal Forever: People Actually Think That Raising Tax Revenue from the Sale of Marijuana is a Good Thing

Here is the first of many, many blogs I am planning to write to show why pot should be illegal forever, with very stiff penalties.

So I sign into my Yahoo to check my email, and once again I’m bombarded by marijuana articles, raving about how we should legalize marijuana or about the states poised to legalized marijuana or how great it would be to have marijuana legalized. I skimmed through one of them and it talked about how “the primary allure of legalizing cannabis on a state and/or federal basis is inherent in the taxable revenue that could be collected from the sale of the currently controlled substance.” Aaaarghh!This is one of the top five excuses pot smokers use to justify their drug use. Pot smokers online have told me this for YEARS (usually while cussing me out, threatening me with death and bodily harm, attacking my religion and my looks, and making fun of me for collecting dolls). They all say that pot should be legal because we could make money from it. They just don’t get it! The whole object is to get people to NOT smoke pot! We don’t want to make money off of drugs! How sad would THAT be? What would that say about our society, that we are raising tax dollars from drug use?? The point is to make it so that people DON’T use drugs, not to legalize drugs so that we can make money from it!


This proves my point that marijuana should be illegal forever, with very stiff penalties. It is not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it! Do we really want people like this walking around actually USING mind-altering drugs? Heck no!

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Cindybin said...

Oh, and pot smokers, feel free to comment; your posts will further prove my point about why we all need to speak up against marijuana and why it should be illegal forever. Thank you.

amymomof3girls said...

Cindy, let me begin this comment by assuring you that I'm not a pot smoker or cigarette smoker.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a glass of wine! As long as you drink alcohol responsibly and don't drive afterwards, everything is fine! And they do say that a glass of red wine every night is beneficial for our heart (though I prefer white wine to red wine, because white wine is chilled and red wine is room temperature).
Also, about that post American Girl What a Racket, (if you go back on there you will see that I've commented on that post) you chastised that woman Wine Scrag for using profanity and drinking alcohol! I, and clearly no one else, has heard the adage "a gentleman shouldn't swear in front of a lady". If that adage is real, it creates a division. "We will never get the GUYS to respect women!", are you saying that guys don't respect women?
I agree with you that marijuana should be illegal, but I don't care that much about whether it's legalized or not to waste my time going against it online and judging others!
You want people to respect your choices (like doll collecting) but then you disrespect their choice to responsibly drink alcohol! That's hypocrisy!
"OH I HOPE YOU DIE!". Wow, Cindy. Why would you make death threats, especially to people that you don't know?! You need to learn to ignore things sometimes, you'd be a happier person.
And, where is your book? I searched everywhere for a book by Cindy Bin, and found nothing but articles that you've commented on and spread your craziness! So you make death threats and lie?
Why would you promote children doing drugs? That's TERRIBLE!
And, I occasionally use profanity. Not in front ofanyone under the age of 18, though (e.g. my children, they're eleven, eight, and three).
"Mind-altering drugs like alcohol, coffee, tea, cigarettes, and pot!". Cindy, alcohol isn't a mind-altering drug as long as you drink responsibly, coffee and tea simply aren't, and cigarettes + pot ARE. I enjoy a cup of coffee every morning and an occasional cup of tea. They don't make you drunk and they're not drugs.
Lastly, what do you hope to achieve by coming online and judging others?




Briar Ale said...

You, troll, old lady. You left a comment to me on that American Girl post American Girl What A Racket.
"Oh brother! So you think that AG Dolls are sooo expensive but you spend money on booze? Where are your priorities? And what gets me is that I've gone against alcohol for YEARS online, writing tons of blogs, thousands of comments, even a BOOK on why we shouldn't use alcohol or smoke pot! Alcohol is a DRUG! Just because it's legal doesn't make it right! A casual booze drinker is no better than a casual pot smoker, except that they aren't breaking the law! People need to set an example and not use mind-altering drug s like marijuana and alcohol!". Normally I wouldn't quote that whole comment because. I HATE writing and HATE HATE my life in New Orleans in a rundown one level home with my stupid daughter and stupid son.

Briar Ale said...

Oh. And I love smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol (especially beer) to have fun and unwind and relax I love immodesty and touching myself

Anonymous said...

Ok first off Cindy just because Cannabis users defend the use of cannabis doesn't mean the drug should be banned for ever. That's like saying people who drink coffee defend it's use and it being illegal.

You don't even have real reasons to say that marijuana should be illegal. All you have to back yourself up is the fact you are Mormon, and, believe it or not Cindy, just about everyone you've had comments from so far heavily disagree with your religion.

Billy Bob said...

I'd love to post again on your blog cindy, but I was sad you see you had removed most if not all of my previous posts :(

Anonymous said...

I should not even get involved since you are obviously too entrenched in your judgement of other human beings, but the social costs of keeping it illegal are far too high compared with the dubious-at-best moral and medical costs of legalizing. I am not going to personally attack you, but I will give you a bit of a lesson on the USA. It is ILLEGAL to impose any religious or moral obligations on the population by the government. This is what it means to live in a free country. That's not why we have laws. Every reason you state for prohibition is moral and or social. This is why gays are being allowed to marry as well, because denying them the privilege of marriage is discrimination on moral / social grounds. It has been found unconstitutional and gays will soon be allowed to marry nationwide, which is the democratic way, regardless of what your religious screeds may advise. What you are doing to those who use marijuana, alcohol, or anything that your personal views, or religion, condemn is passing judgement that you, frankly, are in no place to pass. I will not live my life based on your values, nor should I have to. Same goes for every other free citizen of this country. If the average pot smoker in Colorado chooses to smoke, who are you to judge? It is no longer illegal, or taboo, but people like you would be happier seeing them thrown in jail? Why is that? What does that say about you and about the empathy you possess toward your fellow man? What would Jesus do? You seem to want to condemn them to the harshest possible punishment, based on your moral or religious views, which is the exact opposite of democracy. Division of church and state MUST exist for democracy to survive. The will of the MAJORITY must be executed (as has been the case EVERYWHERE in the USA marijuana is in any way legal, recreationally or medicinally) for democracy to exist. What you are advocating is, frankly at this point in time, ANTI AMERICAN. What you are advocating is closer to Sharia Law than anything our forefathers had written into our constitution, or had envisioned for our future.

Cindybin said...

Dear Anonymous, Now see? THIS is why I continue to say that pot should be illegal forever, with very stiff penalties! You are yet ANOTHER person who focuses on the LAW rather than the pot smokers themselves. What you are telling me is stuff I have heard a BILLION TIMES from pot smokers and others over the years. And as I have said a billion times, my whole point is that if people would just shape up and NOT SMOKE POT, the whole legal issue would be moot! How hard is it to not smoke pot? Where would one even FIND this stuff? it is ILLEGAL (in most states, that is.) I have never even SEEN marijuana! Nobody has ever offered it to me or talked about it to me or anything! And I was a teen in the 70s! Same for my husband! You had to be a totally different person to cross the line and use illegal drugs! It was GOOD that pot was illegal! We all knew better than to use marijuana! That was totally crossing the line! It was the "bad kids" who did things like that! Even if pot were legal, it doesn't make it right! What parent would ever raise their kids to grow up and use drugs to get high? At any age? What a thing to do! And you must be the 200th person online just this week to accuse me of WANTING people to go to jail for pot. As I have said a billion times, I do NOT want anyone to go to jail! What do you think I am, some cruel, heartless person who wants people to suffer? All I want is for people to NOT SMOKE POT! And that is why we all need to speak up against pot! We all need to HELP all these people online who use marijuana! I was shocked when we got the Internet about ten years ago and found all these pot smokers on it! I have tried to talk some sense into them and help them to see why we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs to get high and stoned and have "fun", etc. Just the fact that you accuse me of WANTING people to be thrown in jail for smoking pot proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever! What you are saying is stuff I've heard a billion times! you all think that you and you alone are making me see the light. Can't you see that you prove my point about why we all need to speak up against drugs?

Cindybin said...

And what do you mean, smoking pot is no longer taboo?? Again, what parent would ever raise their children to grow up and smoke POT?? Most parents try to teach their kids to AVOID drugs! Again, stop focusing on the LAW and start focusing on the pot smokers. My whole point is that if people would just shape up and NOT SMOKE POT, the whole legal issue would be moot. We wouldn't even be HAVING this discussion! There wouldn't BE any "laws" against marijuana, because people wouldn't even be THINKING about lighting up a joint, smoking it and getting high or stoned. What a thing to do! Why don't you help me speak up against pot? Why don't you talk to all the pot smokers online and help them to understand why we shouldn't use drugs? Help me make a difference in the world, instead of putting me down and focusing on the LAW rather than the pot smokers. Do YOU smoke pot?

Cindybin said...

To the "mom of 3 girls": I have explained over and over that alcohol is NOT good for your heart! There are studies that show you'd have to drink hundreds of bottles a day to get any benefit, and it's only common sense that it's the GRAPES, not the alcohol! Alcohol is a toxin! It poisons cells! And I have explained over and over that it is AGAINST MY RELIGION! I am a convert to the Mormon church and we have what we believe to be DIRECT REVELATION FROM GOD saying that alcohol, tea, coffee, cigarettes and mind-altering drugs like marijuana are not for the body. What do you want me to do, tell God he is wrong?? This is part of my faith! I have a testimony of the Mormon church and I can't deny that! I can't just tell God he is wrong, because someone on the INTERNET told me it's okay to drink wine or coffee! But as I've said a billion times, you don't have to be Mormon to know not to use these things! It's just common sense! A grown adult should be well past the age where they'd want to use a mind-altering drug to get a "buzz". And I never drank coffee or tea even BEFORE I became LDS. And I never told anyone to die; I don't know what you are talking about. There are "trolls" and imposters all over who pose as me and say crazy things. And it is the POT SMOKERS who send ME death threats! You should read my emails! And I am NOT JUDGING OTHERS! Why do you people always accuse me of "judging"?? Just because I say we shouldn't use drugs doesn't mean I am "judging" anyone! I don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say! What parent would ever raise their kids to grow up and smoke POT?? At any age? And it is ILLEGAL in most states! That's ALL I'M SAYING! If you don't smoke pot, then why wouldn't you defend me for saying that we shouldn't use drugs? And as far as my book, you can find that by googling "The Cindybin Project". It is an account of my time on the old Yahoo boards.

Cindybin said...

Anonymous wrote: "Ok first off Cindy just because Cannabis users defend the use of cannabis doesn't mean the drug should be banned for ever. That's like saying people who drink coffee defend it's use and it being illegal. You don't even have real reasons to say that marijuana should be illegal. All you have to back yourself up is the fact you are Mormon, and, believe it or not Cindy, just about everyone you've had comments from so far heavily disagree with your religion."

Now see? This EXACTLY proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever, with very stiff penalties! Again, it is not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it! Look at you! Instead of being a nice, decent guy and commending me and supporting me for saying that we shouldn't use drugs, you focus on the LAW rather than the pot smokers, and accuse me of only being against marijuana because of my religion, which I have said over and over is NOT TRUE. I have said over and over that I don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say, Mormon or not! I never smoked pot BEFORE I was Mormon. I never even used to THINK about marijuana before I started talking to pot smokers online. But boy have you guys opened my eyes.

And why would you bring up about how people "disagree with my religion"? After all I've said about my religion, don't you want to know more about it? I was thrilled to learn about the Mormon church all those years ago. Don't you want to know that there is a true church out there, that has the fullness of the gospel, and that will HELP you? It will change your life!

Cindybin said...

Billy Bob: the reason I removed most of the old posts is because some jerk started posting my personal information, and I got fed up and just deleted most everything and had to set my comments for moderation only. All because I have said we shouldn't smoke pot or drink alcohol! This shows you what people are like and why we all need to speak up against mind-altering drugs. Just because a person says we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs, they would purposely find out a woman's personal information and post it online for all to see, trying to hurt and scare her. You wouldn't see ladies in a knitting group doing something like this!

Cindybin said...

Also to "mom of 3 girls", I never said that drinking coffee and tea are "mind-altering drugs" like marijuana or alcohol! Although caffeine IS a drug. But as I've explained many times, in the Mormon church we have The Word of Wisdom which we believe to be direct revelation from God saying that alcohol, tea, coffee, cigarettes and mind-altering drugs like marijuana are not for the body. We are taught the moral and physical reasons to avoid using these things. This HELPS us. It is good to know why we should not consume these things! And I have explained many times that we are not against coffee and tea because of the caffeine, because caffeine IS allowed in the Mormon church; we can eat chocolate and there are members who drink things like Mountain Dew or Pepsi. But it is OTHER things in the tea and coffee that are the culprit. There are things in coffee and tea that are not good for the body. But as I've said, I never drank these things even BEFORE I became Mormon. I just knew it wasn't right.

And why would you accuse me of promoting that children do drugs? I never said that!

And about profanity; all I'm saying is that we shouldn't use it! Why would you put me down for saying that? I'm just talking about all the people online who casually swear like it's nothing. And yes, that saying about how "a gentleman shouldn't swear in front of a lady" is a VERY COMMON, OLD SAYING. It is just about having good manners. And yes, when women swear, then guys are going to think it's okay for THEM to swear, too. Is that the kind of world you want to live in?

And don't try to compare DOLL COLLECTING to using alcohol or pot! That proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and alcohol! You people always try to compare an innocent little hobby like DOLL COLLECTING to consuming a mind-altering drug! That isn't the same at all! And no state trooper will pull me over for having a doll collection!

And I have said over and over how annoying it is when you guys say things about drinking "responsibly." My whole point is to get people to realize that a RESPONSIBLE person would not want to drink or smoke pot! A RESPONSIBLE person would not want to use a mind-altering drug!

Also, I think you are a troll. You can't possibly be real. So go away--I probably won't approve any more of your comments.

Cindybin said...

And so, as you can see, dear lawmakers and voters everywhere, the comments I have received here further prove my point about why pot should be illegal forever, with very stiff penalties! Thank you for posting, one and all!

JohnDough said...

Cindy, in your post I did not see any objective reasons given for prohibition. Outside of religious or moral concerns (as those are biases we are all entitled to hold personally and without interference from others), what are your objections to recreational drug use?

Cindybin said...

Mr. Dough: Now see? You are yet another person who proves our point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever. You can't even see why it's wrong and just plain immature to use drugs recreationally! You actually use the word recreational! You ADMIT that people would be smoking pot for recreational reasons! Do you smoke pot recreationally? Do we really want people like that walking around actually USING mind-altering drugs? Do we really want marijuana legalized for people like you who would ask me such a question? Heck no.

JohnDough said...

But you fail to mention any harm that caused by the recreational drug user. How does it effect you? You say you don't know any current users but you rail against them so. Have the actions of a user hurt you in some way? If so, I doubt that this person(s) is representative of recreational drug users as a whole. Those that I have met have been pretty nice people. There are bad eggs in every bunch but that does not justify prejudice against the carton.

It's also clear that given the resources and opportunity people will do what they want regardless of the legality and if what a person wants doesn't directly harm others what right does anyone have to stop them? Laws restricting the rights of the individual are consistent failures. Anti-Mormon laws (think Lilburn Boggs) didn't stop new converts, Anti-sodomy laws didn't work in Florida, Anti-polygamy laws haven't stamped out the practice, and the war on drugs has been fought for forty long years at the cost of well over a trillion dollars with nothing to show for it.

I ask again what harm Has the recreational drug user done? How can you justify this narrowing of personal freedom? Furthermore, are those that imbibe drugs for spiritual reasons being immature too?

Anonymous said...

Your screen name came up when I was having a discussion with a group I'm involved with. I heard you were against marijuana so I had to look you up to see how you presented your stance. Due to today's growing number of people on the pro side of the argument I had to find out what you say to bring people to the Anti side of this subject. Sadly You never gave an answer to "WHY MARIJUANA SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOREVER". I was hopping you were going to give a definitive answer in this blog. A lawyer would be laughed out of the courtroom if that was what they presented to support their case.
From what I've read of yours on Youtube, it doesn't seem like you really want to change minds as much as you'd prefer to agitate people.
I'm sorry but I was looking for a solid anti-marijuana stance. You simply don't have one to stand up against the people on the pro side of this subject.
Good luck to you, but your reasoning will be unusable.

Cindybin said...

Thank you all again for your comments--you continue to prove our point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever. Again, it is not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it! Look at you guys! Instead of being nice, decent, mature people and commending and supporting me for speaking up against drugs, you put me down and use all these lame excuses I've heard a billion times. You are setting a terrible example and going against everything that most parents try to teach their kids about drugs and life. Again, do we really walking around actually USING mind-altering drugs? Heck no! And do we really want to legalize mind-altering drugs for people who believe as you? Heck no!

Seriously, all you have to do to end this discussion or debate is to say, "Wow Cindy, I really admire you for speaking up against drugs. It is good you are trying to help make a difference in the world. You don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say. And that is a good thing! We should all learn from your wonderful example." That's all you have to say. So say it already!

Anonymous said...

Are you accusing me of defending the use of marijuana? Unfortunately I didn't heed the warning that engaging a conversation with you would be fruitless because you turn on people no matter what their stance happens to be. So I'm going to recommend to The Anti drug community to stay well away from you because you are not a person who is looking to end drug use in America. You are doing nothing more than trying to pick fights. Shame on you! I'll be sure to post your name on our site and in the news letter as a person who is detrimental to the cause and should be avoided at all cost. I was really hoping you would provide us with your help. How very wrong I was. Now how could I ever commend a person like you?

Cindybin said...

What are you talking about? All I'm saying is that we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs like marijuana or alcohol. That is ALL I'M SAYING. I'm just trying to get people to THINK, and to GROW UP and realize that they are too GOOD to be doing something like using a mind-altering drug to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax and unwind, have "fun", etc. Again, I don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say! It is people like you that try to make a drama out of all of this. I never even used to THINK about marijuana until all this. I have never even SEEN marijuana!

JohnDough said...

So far I have been nothing but nice and respectful, there have been no put downs as of yet. I can see why you may have been insulted in the past for your views, obstinance is hard to meet with civility and the internet is not the most friendly of places, but by putting all that stand for something you you don't in the same box you are only making yourself more insular and casting your religion/belief system in a bad light. Just because I don't support your beliefs(though I do support your right to have them) doesn't mean that I am not decent or mature either. I am not advocating the use of recreational drugs by children, the choice should only be available to adults. Under our current system of prohibition pot is easier for a kid to get than alcohol in many parts of the country. If you make sale to adults legal and regulate the sale of it properly the incentives to sell to someone under the age limit (let's call it twenty-one like in Colorado) are vastly outweighed by the incentives to maintain a legal business.

To be frank, part of the reason people deride your arguments is because you could take them and replace the subject of disapproval with anything and it would make just as much sense. I will save you an example as it would be petty. This matched with your dismissal of any argument as something you have heard "a billion times" rather than countering with an argument of your own tailored to the specific points of the opposing party. I know you likely receive numerous arguments daily and it must get tiring defending your stance but if these "excuses" are truly so similar than it wouldn't be hard to have form responses tailored to the few arguments you have heard repeated a billion times. I know you are a fan of the form response as your arguments against guns, masturbation, alcohol, and drugs all seem to be the same. All I am trying to say is flesh out your opinions more, reflect on why you take a stance when confronted with an opposing view and people beyond those that already share your beliefs will start respecting them.

Finally, I would like to point out a small hypocrisy of yours but please do not take this as an attack on your beliefs. I notice the chocolate bar on your top banner. Did you know that chocolate contains a few mind altering drugs?

Theobromine; A vasodilator, heart stimulant, and diuretic. Very similar to caffeine, in fact it is a byproduct of caffeine metabolism in the liver and thus in part responsible for the "high" a caffeine user experiences. This substance is also what some researchers blame for chocolate addiction.

Caffeine; We all know what this does but did you know that the bar pictured above contains about the caffeine of two cups of tea, two cokes, or one cup of coffee?

Phenethylamine; A psychoactive and stimulant. When it enters the brain in triggers the release of dopamine and norepinephrine.

If it is a matter of limiting your dosage of mind altering drugs to a non-active dose I recommend not using dark chocolate any more as it is the coco solids that contain these alkaloids. They are in much lower (arguably insubstantial) quantities in milk chocolate and nearly non-existent in white chocolate.

Cindybin said...

Mr. Dough: AARRGHHHH, you still don't get it. What you are telling me is stuff I have heard a billion times online the past ten years! And I have addressed this a billion times! I have said over and over how of course I know you wouldn't advocate children using marijuana! Nobody advocates that! But you guys always talk about legalizing and regulating marijuana for adults. My whole point is that an adult should know more than anybody to not use drugs! A grown adult should set an example and NOT SMOKE POT. A grown adult should be well past the age where they'd want to use a mind-altering drug like that! And you guys all say that it's so easy for kids to get marijuana. Well I sure never was able to get marijuana! Nobody ever offered it to me or talked about it to me or anything! And I was a teen in the 70s! Same for my husband! We have never even SEEN marijuana! If kids have friends who smoke pot, then it's time to get new friends! And where would one even FIND marijuana? It is ILLEGAL!

And again, you are still focusing on the law rather than the pot smokers themselves. As I've said a billion times, if people would just shape up and not smoke pot, the whole legal issue would be moot! We wouldn't even be HAVING this discussion about "prohibition", etc. So why don't you HELP me in speaking up against drugs? Together we could make a difference in the world!

And you must be the 200th person just this week to bring up CHOCOLATE. You all try to compare something like CHOCOLATE to lighting up a joint, smoking it and getting high, or to consuming alcohol. That isn't the same at all and you know it! And no state trooper will pull me over for having chocolate!

Again, you guys prove my point about why we all need to speak up against marijuana and why it should be illegal forever. There is no way we should want to legalize a mind-altering drug if the people who want it legal are like you.

Cindybin said...

And masturbation? What have I said about THAT? I think there may be some quotes out there about this subject from "trolls" posing as me. And what does that have to do with marijuana? Again, all I'm saying is that we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs like marijuana or alcohol to get "buzzed", relax and unwind, have "fun", enjoy life, get high, stoned, celebrate, socialize, etc. If people would just shape up and not smoke pot, the whole legal issue would be moot!

JohnDough said...

Alright I see we are not going to have anything close to an understanding or even a respectful mutual disagreement regarding this.

It has been enlightening talking with you and I would like to make you aware of where you could see or get drugs (almost any) regardless what backwater you live in. Though I doubt you will post this (as it expands public knowledge of drug availability) I hope you will visit and learn about it so you can understand to futility of the fight you have chosen.

http://silkroad6ownowfk.tor2web.org/
Username: JustBrowsing2014
Password: 123456

Cindybin said...

Mr. Dough: You still keep giving wrong answers! Again, stop focusing on the law, and just support and commend me for saying that we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs to get high, stoned, buzzed, etc.

And it doesn't matter if you one can see or find illegal drugs. It still doesn't mean that one has to TRY this stuff! And nobody ever offered ME illegal drugs! Again, the whole focus should be on helping people to see why we shouldn't use drugs in the first place, rather than on this issue legalizing marijuana just because there are people who break the law.

And just the fact that you try to compare CHOCOLATE to pot or alcohol proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever.

Anonymous said...

No Cindybin, By no means am I trying to start drama. But I am getting the feeling that YOU are attempting to derail all the progress that anti drug campaigns in this country have worked so hard to gain on purpose. You're upsetting the very people who's mind you say you'd like to see changed. The battle to end drug use will go on forever as long as you keep agitating the very people you claim you want to THINK and GROW UP and Stop using. Your approach is very counterproductive.
Please consider what I've said.
Sadly I'm convinced you won't. If you continue to carry on in the same manor I can only conclude that it's your intention to see people turn their nose up at any anti drug message.

H. Cumberdale

Cindybin said...

What are you TALKING about?? Again, all I'm saying is that we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs, and that you can get into serious trouble if you get busted (depending on where you live). I don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say. And I have helped several people online stop using drugs. They have thanked me for speaking up and reaching out.

Anonymous said...

I can see that you're determined to continue on the same path. It simply means that the true anti drug crusaders will have to work harder to right your wrongs.
May God have pity upon you.

H. Cumberdale

JohnDough said...

Mr. Cumberdale, you seem like an alright sort. If you would like to hone your debate skills on this matter (in a reason based non-inflammatory way) I would be more than willing to take this discussion elsewhere.

johndough@incognitomail.org

Gabe said...

Honestly Cindy, how can you not understand what these people are talking about?

They are trying to get you to understand that your approach on anti drug use is wrong! Instead of being caring and understanding of the drug users, you outright verbally and on some level mentally attack them about their drug use. No one cares if something illegal because of supply and demand.

I don't care if you have never seen cannabis where you grew up, for all I care you have never seen weed and wouldn't know it if you did see it. Where I am I know at least 3 people who have their own grow places. I have friends who have serious depression issues who have to use weed to calm down from anxiety attacks, but they aren't bad people, in fact they are some of the most intelligent people I know! I don't need new friends. I don't need new view, and I definitely don't need to be put down by some lady on the internet who claims to be all enlightened and mighty because she believes other's should think like she does.

Cindybin said...

Gabe: AARGGHHH! First of all, I think you are all the same person, only saying this stuff to "troll" me or make me mad. Secondly, I have said over and over how furious it makes me when you guys accuse me of thinking that someone is a "bad person" if they smoke pot. My whole point is to get people to realize that they are too GOOD to be smoking pot! I'm not saying they are a "bad person"! What are parents supposed to tell their kids? "Okay Suzie, when you grow up, you can go smoke all the pot you wish, because you are a good person! And who cares if it's illegal? If you get busted, just tell the judge that you're a good person, and you'll be sure to be set free!" IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY! Do you understand that?? Parents HAVE to tell their kids to avoid drugs, because they are ILLEGAL. If you get busted, a judge won't care if you are a good person, if you get good grades or have a good job or if you like little baby ducks. Where I live, you will be treated like dirt, a number in the court room. Kids need to remember that! ADULTS need to remember that! It does NOT MATTER if you are a good person! Pot is AGAINST THE LAW! But as I've said a billion times, even if pot were legal it doesn't make it right. What parent would EVER raise their kids to grow up and use drugs to get high and stoned? At any age? Legal or not? What a thing to do! (continued)

Cindybin said...

And you accuse me of not being caring or understanding of drug users; oh that drives me nuts. If you had read my book which has been online for YEARS, you would see how caring I am! In that book I talk about my friendship with a young Canadian teen who smoked lots of pot due to family issues. We chatted emailed for a long time and she said she wished I were her mother! I also talked to a married man who smoked pot with his wife, and he said I was the first person online that he felt truly cared about him as a person. Another man, a divorced father of three, thanked me for helping him stop smoking pot! I have listened to many, many people tell me why they use marijuana, and I have tried to help them to see that using drugs is not the answer to their problems.

And I have talked to so many people online who tell me they use marijuana for anxiety and depression. I have always tried to be sympathetic and I tell them if it helps them, then that is good. But then as I speak with them further, I find out they think nothing is wrong with recreational use, and when I try to tell them why we shouldn't use drugs recreationally, they turn all psycho on me and cuss me out, threaten me with death and bodily harm, attack my religion, my looks, make mean videos and websites about me, call me ignorant and close-minded, make fun of me for collecting dolls, etc. They are just HORRIBLE! They would be smoking pot for "fun" even if they didn't have this horrible depression and anxiety! (continued)

Cindybin said...

And I have tried to help these people understand that getting high on pot is not the way to treat depression and anxiety! That will only make it worse in the long run, because you are not getting to the root cause. And I tell them to think about how maybe if they understood why we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs recreationally, that maybe they wouldn't have these problems in the first place! Think about it! If someone can't even see why it's wrong and just plain immature to light up a joint, smoke it and get high, then what does that say about the person??

And it is ILLEGAL in most places! If you get busted, do you think the judge will care if you are a good person and that you are using it to treat depression and anxiety? NOT WHERE I LIVE! You'd be a number in the court room and treated like dirt! Kids need to remember that! Adults need to remember that! But again, even if pot were legal, what parent would ever raise their kids to grow up and get high on it? What a thing to do! I say the same things to casual booze drinkers! Alcohol is a drug! Just because it's legal doesn't make it right! You guys all think that I'm all about marijuana, that I couldn't care less about alcohol. I rant about alcohol more than marijuana! A casual booze drinker is no better than a casual pot smoker, except they aren't breaking the law!

Again, just the fact that you would accuse me of not being caring or understanding, and accuse me of thinking that anyone who smokes pot is a "bad person" proves my point about why we all need to speak up against marijuana and why it should be illegal forever. It is not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it! Like you! Why are you putting me down JUST BECAUSE I SAY WE SHOULDN'T USE DRUGS RECREATIONALLY??? Do you smoke pot? How old are you? Where are your parents? Do they know you are like this? What do you do for a living? Are you married? What is your occupation? What are your hobbies?

Amymomof3girls said...

Before you accuse me of stalking this blog, I will have you know that I'm not registered with Blogger, my blog is powered by Wordpress (but it is a .com), but I am registered with Google, and Blogger is powered by Google. I get an email whenever someone replies to me on any Google or Blogger site. Just wanted to clarify that.
You have been judgmental. You've trolled the Internet looking for posts about wine, pot, etc. and then judged them. You've claimed that you "randomly find them", we all know that's not true. How do you "randomly find" HUNDREDS of posts about this stuff?
The header on your blog contains 90% dark chocolate. Are you aware that chocolate, especially dark chocolate, has caffeine in it, and that caffeine is also a drug (that, like alcohol, could be used responsibly and have no negative effect on someone)? And the darker the chocolate, the more caffeine! You are officially a hypocrite! Congratulations on completely derailing everything that you've "ranted about for years"! (Hope that you understand sarcasm, in no way was I really congratulating you).
Alcohol IS considered a drug, but so is medicine. For example, meds that you take for colds are drugs. Picture a child that has a bad cough. Would you let him cough because the medicine that she/he needs is a drug?
Alcohol doesn't "poison your cells" in moderation. I've drank it RESPONSIBLY since I was 21 (the age where you are legally allowed to drink alcohol RESPONSIBLY). If it does poison your cells, wouldn't you think that me (and everyone else who responsibly drinks it) would be poisoned and potentially dead?
Nope, you DID make death threats. On Youtube, your video:
American Girl 3-in-1 Murphy Bed Review.
You told Kerpi McHerpy, "I HOPE YOU DIE" and "I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU". Yep, it was under YOUR username and had YOUR picture. Take some responsibility!
Why on Earth would I tell God he is wrong? I BELIEVE in God. I'm Christian!
You may have written a book online, but it must not be published. I checked Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and even the Barnes & Noble at my local mall, and never once did I find it!
Red wine could benefit your heart. Research CONFIRMS this.
I don't expect you to listen to me, so right there, your statement "because someone on the Internet told me that it's alright to drink wine and coffee" makes absolutely zero sense. Why would I expect you to listen to me? I don't even know you!
As for you promoting children doing drugs, on Youtube, under cindybin2001 and your picture you stated "Of course I'm promoting children doing drugs. That's what my message is all about".
Yes, I curse, not in front of children, but I do curse in front of adults and there is nothing wrong with that.
Here's some advice: if you don't like curse words and find them in a post, then IGNORE the words! We were all given a power called ignoring.

Cindybin said...

Also, if you are such a "good person", then that makes it worse, because you of all people should know better than to get high on drugs! Most parents do all they can to teach their kids to AVOID drugs. They teach their kids to stay away from the other kids who use drugs. Those are the "bad kids", right? When I was in high school, it was the "bad kids" who used drugs. I never associated with them, and vice versa! I hung around with the NICE girls! What are parents supposed to tell their kids? To hang out with the druggies? Of course not! They teach their kids to AVOID the other kids who use drugs, because they are the "bad kids." And again, if you get busted, it won't help to tell the judge that you are a "good person." Where I live, the judge would laugh in your face and throw you in jail for making excuses for breaking the law and getting high on pot!

And again, there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between someone taking medication--including marijuana--to treat something like anxiety or depression, and someone lighting up a joint to get high and have "fun". My point is that we shouldn't use drugs RECREATIONALLY. How do your pot smoking depressed and anxious friends feel about RECREATIONAL use? Do they ever use marijuana just to get high and have "fun" and do they think that anything is wrong with that? Do they understand that getting high on pot is not a good way to deal with problems? Would they cuss me out, threaten me with death and bodily harm, attack my religion, make fun of me for collecting dolls, and call me ignorant and close-minded for saying that we shouldn't smoke pot recreationally? Or would they agree with me?

Cindybin said...

To mom of 3 girls: AARGGHHH! Did you not read anything I wrote about chocolate?? I just addressed that! You are yet again proving my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever! What is WRONG with all you people who try to compare CHOCOLATE with lighting up a joint, smoking it and getting high and stoned, or with drinking alcohol?? That is not the same at all and you know it! And no state trooper will pull me over for having CHOCOLATE! What are parents supposed to tell their kids? "Okay Suzie, you can go out and smoke all the pot you wish, because chocolate has caffeine in it and that's a drug. So if you get busted, just tell the judge what I told you, and you'll be sure to be set free!" IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!

And I have explained over and over about how I got started speaking up against marijuana. It all started years ago on the old Yahoo boards where I went to dispel misconceptions people had about lowcarb diets! There were some marijuana stories and I made one little comment about how we shouldn't use drugs and how you can get into trouble with the law if you get busted, and all heck broke loose! All the pot smokers came out of nowhere and cussed me out, threatened me, accused me of thinking that marijuana is all dangerous and deadly and kills people, etc. So I explained myself further, thinking surely they would understand. But no, they just continued to accuse me of all this wrong stuff. That is when my eyes were opened! I never even used to THINK about marijuana before all that! And I have explained over and over that I try to AVOID the marijuana and alcohol references online! I try to stick with my hobbies such as doll collecting, cake decorating, sewing, etc. But you know how the Internet is. One wrong turn and that's it. For example, I did a search about American Girl dolls and came across someone's blog and there were all these objectionable things on it, and one thing led to another, etc.

Again, why are you putting me down just because I say we shouldn't use drugs? I don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say! If you are a mom of three girls, as you CLAIM, then you of all people should agree with me! Do you want your daughters to grow up and get high on POT? Do you want them to get in trouble with the law? What type of example are you setting, as a mother?? I think you are a troll.

Cindybin said...

And as for my picture on YouTube saying that I promote children using drugs, etc., that must obviously be an imposter. I would never say that.

And then you tell me that you drink coffee and tea. I have explained over and over that this is against my religion, that I'm a convert to the Mormon church and we have The Word of Wisdom which we believe to be direct revelation from God saying that alcohol, tea, coffee, cigarettes and mind-altering drugs like marijuana are not for the body. We are taught the moral and physical reasons to avoid using these things. This HELPS us! One of the things that attracted me to the church years ago was knowing that Mormons don't use these things. There are very good health reasons we should not drink coffee or tea. The Word of Wisdom is to HELP us. Don't you want to know that there is a better way to live? Why do you purposely try to TAUNT me, why do you purposely tell me that you drink coffee?

And yes I KNOW that there are studies that show that red wine is good for your heart. I have read that a million times! But again, we have what we believe to be direct revelation from God saying this is not for the body. There may be some health benefits to alcohol, but the risks far outweigh them. And studies show that you'd have to drink hundreds of bottles of wine a day for there to be any benefit, and it's the grapes, not the alcohol. Alcohol is a toxin. But even if it were good for you, just the fact that it's a mind-altering drug makes it wrong. Again, I am just trying to HELP people, to get them to think, to realize that a grown adult should be well past the age where they'd want to use a mind-altering drug to relax and unwind, have "fun", enjoy life, etc.

And what should I do, tell God he is wrong? If the Word of Wisdom isn't true, then that means the entire Mormon church isn't true, and I'd have to drop out. But I know the Church IS true! I studied, pondered and prayed a long time to gain a testimony of the truthfulness of the gospel, and I can't deny that.

Why would you purposely try to make me mad about this? Here I am trying to HELP you, trying to get you to see that there is a better way to live, and you put me down for that and try to disprove everything I say.

Cindybin said...

And yes I know that things like cough syrup, etc. are medicines! I am not saying we shouldn't ever take medicines! What do you think I am, nuts?? Do you think I am some cruel, heartless person who wants people to suffer?? ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT WE SHOULDN'T USE MIND-ALTERING DRUGS RECREATIONALLY! Can't you see that?? There is a huge difference between someone taking cough medicine or high cholesterol medication, etc. to treat an illness or condition they don't want to have, and someone lighting up a joint to get high and stoned and have "fun"! WHY DO YOU PEOPLE ALWAYS TRY TO COMPARE PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS WITH GETTING HIGH ON POT FOR FUN??? THAT ISN'T THE SAME AT ALL!

And you guys always talk about drinking "responsibly." My whole point is that a RESPONSIBLE person would not want to use a mind-altering drug in the first place! Can't you understand that? A RESPONSIBLE person wouldn't have any desire to get a "buzz" on marijuana or alcohol! What a thing to do!

Cindybin said...

And it drives us all nuts when people try to compare CAFFEINE to smoking pot and getting high or to using alcohol! Yes I know that caffeine is a drug! But you could drink 20 cups of coffee or eat 20 chocolate bars and never get the way you would by smoking pot or drinking alcohol! And caffeine is not against my religion! We are allowed to have caffeine! That is not the same at all as someone lighting up a joint to get high and stoned and have "fun". That is not the same at all as someone drinking alcohol to get buzzed and tipsy, etc. Oh you people drive me nuts. You all say the same things over and over and over. This has gone on for YEARS online, and this is why I continue to speak up against pot. I hope all the voters and lawmakers in the world read all of your comments. I keep saying that I plan to write more blogs about why we need to speak up against pot, but I don't need to do a thing! All I have to do is publish the comments I get!

Amymomof3girls said...

I'm officially angry with you, idiot! I check my email and there's an email from Google notifying me that you'd responded to me.
How on Earth am I a troll, moron? Do you even know what a troll is?
I'm not putting you down. What I have stated was not a put-down.
I would NEVER EVER let my children smoke pot! That would be AWFUL! Beyond awful!
I AM against the legalization of marijuana! It SHOULD be illegal.
Do you have any life beyond your nonsense online! People on Earth have lived. But your life is clearly the Internet. My life is a lot more exciting, busy, rewarding, blessed, happy, full, and lucky.
The one thing that I agree with you is that no one should smoke pot! When I have clearly stated that I'm against marijuana, why the heck are you accusing me of wanting to legalize it!?

Cindybin said...

And I'm not saying that alcohol will "poisons your cells" immediately--that anyone who takes one sip will fall over dead! But it is NOT good for you! I have quoted doctors who say that alcohol is a toxin and poisons cells. I'm not making this up! And studies show that even in low doses alcohol significantly increases the risk of breast cancer in women, along with liver and rectum cancer. Low doses! But my point is that even if it were good for you, just the fact that it's a mind-altering drug makes it wrong. That is ALL I'M SAYING! If a person thinks that using marijuana is wrong, then they should also think that using alcohol is wrong, because a casual booze drinker is no better than a casual pot smoker, except they aren't breaking the law.

And I have explained over and over about my "book" which is just mainly my story about my experiences on the old Yahoo boards years ago. It's been online for years. Just google The Cindybin Project and it should come up. It's not a published book or anything like that. It's mainly a "blog" but I call it a book because it is divided into chapters and is as long as a book. It is an eye opener. It tells how I first came to those old Yahoo boards and the fun I had there, and how it all turned so ugly just because I said we shouldn't use drugs.

Cindybin said...

And yes, believe me I DO ignore most of the swearing online! But every once in a while I speak up about it! There is nothing wrong with speaking up and pointing out to people that it is crude and offensive to use profanity, and that they are better than that. It is called HELPING people. And I have helped people online--they have thanked me for speaking up and reaching out.

Gabe said...

Well if you must know Cindy,
Im a 14 year male,
I stay up late and work on homework, studying game design, code and character development.

I personally don't do weed, but enjoy playing video game's so much that I almost consider myself a hermit.

I currently have a summer job of mowing lawns and other small household tasks (taking care of pets, plants etc)

My Parents know full well what I do on the internet, heck I know more about the internet than they ever did.

Im currently single due to the fact that most of the "nice girls" aren't either A) physically attractive or B) socially attractive

I'm a freshman in highschool and am one of the best percussion players of my grade, along with being one the smartest computer wizards in the school.

My Hobbies include PC building, Gaming, game design study and character design study.

And my friends who use marijuana for depression see nothing wrong with its use as a recreational drug, in fact they fully support it's use and will defend that belief.

Also now a day's there aren't nice girls and boys, there are normal guys, athletic guys, band guys, tech guys and weird guys, and most of the women are just either A) Pretty and Dumb combo, B)Smart, but not as pretty, C) The rare combo of being both attractive and mentally fit.

Now where I live a judge wouldn't laugh at your face and treat you like dirt, you would be treated as a citizen of the state and would respected as one. You would get a fair trial, an investigation and if the offence was harming other individuals you would get a 90 day jail sentence and maybe a felony, if the drug was being used responsibly for recreational use the drug would be confiscated and the user would be fined.

I don't know where you are from but it seems to me your court system needs a rotation of leaders if they are inhumanly treating cannabis users.



amymomof3girls said...

Oh, and one more thing, idiot. I couldn't care less if you approve my comment or not. I have way better things to do than debate with a moron like you.
Enjoy being the judgmental troll that you are and I will go on laughing at the silly comments that you make (because they always provide me with a nice laugh. You are amusing, Cindy. Oh, and that was sarcasm.
In fact, when I find my comments on here not approved, I laugh! Yes, it is amusing that you call me a troll. I'm NOT a troll.
I could assure you that I'm indeed a mother of three amazing daughters who are eleven, eight, and three. My kids are awesome and I love them more than the air that I breathe. Being a mom is the most hard and rewarding job ever. So once again, I AM a mom and love being one.

amymomof3girls said...

Oh, and before I go, moron, I've reported you to Blogger.
You've accused me of wanting pot to be legalized, when again, I've stated in EVERY COMMENT that I'm against recreational and medical use of marijuana!
Your commentary is mainly amusing, but then you accused me of raising my daughters to get high on pot, which truly pisses me off!
You are truly so damn annoying.
Oh yes bitch, hold onto your hat, the curse words will be flying now!
You don't even read people's responses do you? You just have a bunch of shitty canned responses.
You know what I assume? That you are a pot smoker, yet you don't want others to know, so you go so fucking crazy online!
Yes, I have cursed a lot already, but like I said, I don't curse in front of children. I don't even curse on my blog! I don't curse this much normally but it's ABSOLUTELY warranted with a dumbass like you.
Like I said, I don't raise my daughters to even know a thing about pot, jackass!
What the FUCK do you mean by all the voters and lawmakers should see my comment, you idiot?!

Cindybin said...

It is TERRIBLE that your friends who CLAIM to use marijuana for depression see nothing wrong with recreational use! You need to get new friends! Most parents try to teach their kids to AVOID the other kids who use drugs! They don't want their own child to be under a bad influence and risk getting in trouble with the law! Do your parents know you hang around with kids like this? Tell them to email me, I'd love to talk to them.

And where I live, the laws are very strict against marijuana and other drugs. Parents HAVE to make sure their kids avoid drugs! No parent wants to bail their child out of jail and have them face a stern, harsh judge! But even if pot were legal, what parent would ever raise their kids to grow up and use drugs to get high? At any age? Most parents try to raise their kids with morals and values and maturity to know that this is not right.

And what type of woman is going to want to date or marry a guy with an attitude like yours? Don't you want to marry a NICE young lady? Someone who will be a good mother to your children someday? Aren't you worth that?? A NICE young woman is NOT going to want to marry a guy who smokes pot or who thinks nothing is wrong with it!

Cindybin said...

And your friends who CLAIM to smoke pot for depression should be ashamed of themselves! Lighting up a joint to get high and stoned is no way to deal with depression! And if they think nothing is wrong with using it recreationally, you know darn well that they'd smoke it even if they DIDN'T have this "depression." And did it ever occur to you and them that maybe if they understood why it is wrong and immature to use drugs to get high recreationally, that they would not have this "depression" in the first place??? Your friends need to GROW UP. I'd love to sit down and talk some sense into them! And I'd love to talk to their parents!

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Cindybin said...

Also, Gabe, I see you sent me another comment where you told me to not tell people to just "shape up and not smoke pot" because if they have addictions their bodies crave it, blah blah blah. Again, this is why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever. It is not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it! Like you! I NEVER SAID POT WAS ADDICTIVE! That is not why I'm against it! I know perfectly well that very nice, educated, decent people can smoke a little "WEED" every now and then and nothing ever happens to them, they aren't addicted, they do it "responsibly", etc. BUT THAT IS WHY I'M AGAINST IT. That is what makes it WORSE! Because they of ALL people should know better! And who are they that they're above the law? They should be ashamed of themselves! Casual users are the worst! They keep the whole illegal drug trade in business! And then you tell me to tell the pot smokers the negatives of marijuana, rather than just base my opinion on my morals or religious beliefs. This drives me nuts, too! I have explained over and over that I can't sit here and tell people how DANGEROUS marijuana is or how ADDICTIVE it is. Because it ISN'T! Pot smokers always accuse me of being against pot because I think it's all dangerous and addictive, and they think that if only I knew how safe it is, I'd suddenly approve of it! And again, THAT is exactly why I started speaking up against pot! It is because of all the people who accused me of thinking “weed” is dangerous and addictive! I never even used to THINK about marijuana before this. But boy have you guys opened my eyes. The very fact that people tell us that “weed” isn’t dangerous or addictive is the very reason we are all against marijuana and why it should be illegal forever! Do we really want people like that walking around actually USING mind-altering drugs? HECK NO!

And then you tell me you are just 14 years old. Sheesh. A fourteen-year-old boy. You know what you need, Gabe? A good spanking. Now go to your room before I get the belt.

Cindybin said...

I just want to say that I have received comments from the above people, apologizing profusely for what they have said, and thanking me for talking some sense into them. They all feel so embarrassed and ashamed that they ever put me down for speaking up against drugs, and they now realize how immoral and immature they have been. They have vowed to change their lives and those around them by joining me in speaking up against marijuana. Thank you one and all.

Cindybin said...

Oh come now, no more need to apologize, people! I have already forgiven you. Please, please, no more apologies! It really isn't necessary! I have received so many heartfelt apologies that I can't possibly print them here. So I won't. All that matters now is that you understand why we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs to get high, stoned, buzzed, have "fun", enjoy life, etc. And I know that you understand that now. Good for you! Thank you so much for your kind words. I am so glad I talked some sense into you! It is good to know that I have helped people and made a difference in the world.

Take care and peace be with you!

~Cindy

Billy Bob said...

Oh Cindy... you're either my favourite troll or the most deluded person I've ever come across. I hope it's the former, but I have my doubts.

I'm kind of conflicted in what I want to say here. I've spent over two weeks reading what you and others have said, and have been wanting to get involved, but.... you're scary lady... you're damn scary.

There certainly is _much_ to discuss regarding 'drug use' ( I don't believe it's the substantive issue ) but I don't think you should be part of that discussion. I feel you have ostracized yourself due to your narrow-minded perspective, and the bizarre and frankly inhumane way in which you try to compel others to adopt it.

I've long known that I'm not the only one who disagrees with your opinion, but I'm now pleased to see others identifying the twisted ways in which you try to intrude your beliefs in to the lives of other people though lambasting, shaming, and exploiting natural instincts like parenthood which projects little more than an arms-flailing, scare-mongering, and stubbornly ignorant condemnation of drugs, and more specifically, the users. You have no right to use your fears and inadequacies to limit the capacity of innocent people. Shame on YOU!

AARRGHHHH!


I feel I have a lot to say in response to the drug-related topics brought up by you and the others, but I don't want to do it with you in control of moderation. Having said that I'm very sorry to hear that some people intruded on your private life in an attempt to return-bully you.

I don't believe you are malicious, Cindy. I believe you think you're doing the right thing, and that's what makes you scary.

Cindybin said...

Oh Billy Bob...WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?? Even after ALL I HAVE SAID, you would still call me "scary" and put me down just because I say we shouldn't smoke pot?? YOU ARE JUST HORRIBLE. I just can't believe we live in a world like this. Again, I don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say! What parent would EVER raise their kids to grow up and get high on drugs? At any age? Legal or not?? Go walk by a school at recess or a playground with kids on the swings, etc. The mothers are watching their little darlings play and romp, the teachers are in the classroom giving lessons to these children; do you think ANY of the parents or teachers would want these little children to grow up and smoke POT??? Don't you think they would teach these children morals, values and common sense to AVOID using mind-altering drugs to get high, stoned, buzzed, have "fun", etc.? What parent would EVER want their kids to grow up and use drugs to get high? At any age?? Didn't YOUR parents teach you this? I am so sick of you people acting like I'm the most crazy, close-minded person on earth. Again, I don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say! I never even used to THINK about drugs before all this! I never smoked pot, nobody ever offered it to me or anything! And I was a teen in the 70s! Same for my husband! And we sure don't know anybody NOW who smokes pot, approves of it or knows where to find it! It's ILLEGAL! Even if it were legal, what a thing to do! That is why I was so shocked when we got the Internet about ten years ago. I made one little comment on a marijuana story at Yahoo, and all the pot smokers cussed me out, threatened me, and of course even the "nice" ones accused me of thinking that marijuana is all dangerous and deadly and that only stupid, lazy, good-for-nothing bums use it. I NEVER SAY THAT! NEVER! Yet the more I have tried to defend myself, the worse they get. And that's how all this happened. And that is why my eyes have been opened and why I realize that we all need to speak up against pot. Now, I am sure you realize you are setting a terrible example and going against everything that most parents try to teach their kids about drugs and life. So run along and stop putting me down just for saying we shouldn't smoke pot. And join me in educating these online pot smokers so that they understand that we are NOT against marijuana because we think it's all dangerous and deadly and turns you into a lazy bum. I accept your apology in advance.

Billy Bob said...

Took me two weeks force myself to post here and three hours to write it, and you respond in 15 minutes! ALL GLORY TO CINDYBIN!

Parents encouraging abstinence from drugs to their growing children is a very good policy! Developing bodies and minds should have innocence, and should be protected from certain influences... but not through ignorance.

It's 11PM here and I'm tired, maybe I'll post again tomorrow.

Is there a discussion elsewhere, guys?

Cindybin said...

Billy Bob, what do you mean, children should not be protected from drugs "through ignorance"? What do I say that is ignorant? Again, all I'm saying is that we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs to get high, stoned, buzzed, have "fun", etc. An adult should know more than anybody not to do this. An adult should set an example and NOT USE DRUGS. I accept your apology in advance.

Gabe The Ginger Lord said...

Cindy, I'll be honest, I fail to see your point of view when you read this blog. I can understand how you would feel offended by the people who comment here, but other than that you have no right to just say that "Pot should be illegal forever" just because someone disagrees with you.

I also agree with Billy Bob, you simply try to impose fear and sentiment by telling people that you are only saying what any parent would. That is almost indefinitely WRONG. My parents warn me about drugs, but they don't tell me that people who use drugs should be ashamed of themselves because they enjoy using drugs.

Now I know you probably wont approve this comment like the last 2 I've posted. But I know you'll at least see this. I just want you to know that I wont let you call me or anyone else here the reasons pot should be illegal. If anything they are doing the same thing that your doing. They are simply trying to let you see what is wrong with what you think.

Cindybin said...

Gabe, Gabe, Gabe, thank you for yet again proving my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever. It is not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it. Do we really want people like that walking around actually USING mind-altering drugs? Heck no!

You KNOW that most parents tell their kids to avoid drugs, or just plain raise them to know better, and to know that people who use drugs SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. Of course they should be ashamed of themselves! They set a terrible example and go against everything that most parents try to teach their kids about drugs and life! And they are breaking the law! They keep the whole illegal drug trade in business and all the crime and violence associated with it! Of COURSE they should be ashamed of themselves! Parents don't even have to tell their kids this! They all just KNOW! We all know this! And now you know it, too--all thanks to me.

I accept your apology in advance.

Billy Bob said...

The 'law' as you call it is in debate Cindy, can we leave it out of the argument for now? The mere 'existence' of a law is not justification enough for it.

Clearly people still use drugs so they're ignorant, what reasons do you give them to not use them?

Cindybin said...

You people drive me bananas. Grow up.

Gabe The Ginger Lord said...

Ok Cindy, Im sorry... Im sorry that you are mentally incapable of accepting what other people think.

I don't agree with breaking the law, but if people are supporting the change of a law then they have the right to do so. And personally I dont care if people "walk around using mind altering drugs" because they at least are in a state of enjoyment rather than having the, pleasure, of arguing with a women who acts as if she can determine what everyone should conceive as right or wrong.

Cindybin said...

Thanks Gabe, yet another comment to prove my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever! Where are your parents?? do they know you are like this? If you were my son I'd ground you for life. You need to GROW UP.

Billy Bob said...

Lord Gabe, I'm glad to see you're wise enough to point out the flaws in Cindys approach rather than get trapped in an engineered argument. But she doesn't care, her belief is absolute and she wants it confirmed NOW NOW NOW.

Gabe The Ginger Lord said...

No Cindy, what the heck does me saying that you obviously can't accept what other people think a reason for pot to be illegal.

And yes my parents do know im like this, and I'm sure they would agree with me you are closed minded attention greedy old lady! And Cindy you are the one who needs to grow up, you have literally stooped to reacting like a small child, saying that I should be grounded and even threatening to "tell on me" to be honest Cindy you are just sad to talk to. It's obvious to me now that even though I've tried to let you see from my point of view you wont look, oh well have a nice life arguing with everyone you meet.

Billy Bob said...

Cindy what does the book of Mormon say about the 'Garden of Eden' and the temptation of Adam and Eve?

landon2018 said...

Why do you believe that using marijuana recreationally is immoral and immature? What is it about mind altering drugs that you feel is immoral or immature?

Gabe The Ginger Lord said...

Another thing Cindy, you always talk about how we ignore the pot smokers and focus only on the law, but in at least 3 comments alone on this post you have clearly stated that those who smoke are breaking the law. You focus on the law as well, and just because someone uses pot doesn't mean they are unable to tasks such as you or I.

You make unjust statements only stating that smoke pot is wrong. Well who are you to define what other's see as wrong and further more if people smoke put they aren't setting a bad example, they are simply enjoying something like others enjoy alcohol, cigarettes, or even chocolate. Now I know your going to be all like "Stop trying to compare chocolate to pot" but that's not possible, chocolate contains many chemicals that make your brain want more of it. The same thing weed does. Chocolate also causes your brain create more of the chemicals dopamine and endorphin. You simply cannot ignore the facts Cindy. But seeing as your commenting history has shown you simply do ignore the facts. You don't reply with actual support for your reasons you just argue. You need to realize that people aren't going to listen to you when you don't provide facts to back up your argument.

Billy Bob said...

I've been so frustrated with your antagonizing behaviour I forgot to actually talk about your original post :P

I totally agree with you that legalizing recreational cannabis in order to generate income is not... ideal, though I understand the concern that legalization will lead to increased use of cannabis and that a deterrent should be maintained. But the idea of taxing cannabis was not created by a user, as you quoted "the primary allure of legalizing cannabis on a state and/or federal basis is inherent in the taxable revenue that could be collected from the sale of the currently controlled substance.".

People do not welcome taxes, so I believe most users have only adopted this idea in desperation after decades ( literally only ) of oppression.

Pot smokers, get out of your haze and think about what you're doing. It is just about the money?

Cindybin said...

Thanks again, guys! You continue to prove my point about why we all need to speak up against marijuana and why it should be illegal forever, with very stiff penalties! I need to email this whole thread to all the lawmakers. I wish more people read my blog--the public needs to be aware of what you guys are like.

Billy Bob said...

You're not even bothering anymore Cindy!

Anonymous said...

So you believe that pot smokers should receive "stiff penalties" for doing nothing other than using a natural plant while not causing harm to literally anyone or anything? Are you a sociopath?

Cindybin said...

Dear Anonymous, Now see? You are yet ANOTHER Internet person illustrating my point exactly about why we need to speak up against marijuana and why it should be illegal forever! Look at you! Instead of being a nice, decent, mature guy and commending and supporting me for speaking up against drugs, you come here and accuse me of being a sociopath and wanting people to be locked up forever for using a natural "plant." Sheesh. You just don't get it! Haven't you read a thing I've written over the years?? Go back and read all the comments on this board right now, young man.

landon2018 said...

AAARRRGGHH!!!! havent you read anything I've said! Collecting dolls and eating chocolate is IMMATURE! Do you think parents want their children growing up to be doll collectors or chocolate eaters?!? What a thing to do! Doll collecting and chocolate eating should be illegal!!!

Gabe The Ginger Lord said...

DO IT CINDY I FREAKING DARE YOU! Send every post you've ever made about cannabis use with all the comments AND I MEAN ALL OF THEM, and watch as law makers laugh at your e-mails and delete them from their inbox's.

I am actually shaking with frustration at you! And thank you Billy Bob for recognizing that this "woman" is freaking mentally incapable of other's opinions...

Okay now that I'm calmed down. Those posts you made about people profusely apologizing. I want those apologies posted. I Want Proof. I don't want your twisted word, I want those posts here on this thread. If you don't post them I will forever regard you as a liar, and a terrible one at that.

Now onto other matters. I agree with you that people dont need a drug to have fun, but if they want to use said drug let them. It's their bodies allow them to do what they wish with it. You yourself have many posts of you trying to go on a diet, and about how you "find" blogs talking about how tea is really great for diets and then you "politely" telling those people about the negatives of tea and yet you make posts about your snacks being chocolate chip cookies. Now last I checked cookies in general aren't healthy for you, and you talk about baking entire batches that you eat throughout the day.

Another thing as well is all the crap you try to pull. Telling people to read through your whole posts. People wouldn't call you the things they do without prior knowledge of you. I found you when you left a freaking string of comments on an ASMR video I watched about a guy reviewing a craft beer. I went to go leave a comment thanking him for making such a relaxing video and instead im greeted with a 10 comment string of you talking about how drinking alcohol sets a bad example for pot smokers and that if people dont stop drinking alcohol then pot smokers wont stop smoking pot. And DO NOT tell me that wasn't you I checked the videos and they were all of your different dolls you have collected.

And Lastly why are so upset with people? Those who like me and Billy Bob, who try to have a civilized argument you immediately reply with "Thank you for further proving my point about why pot should be illegal forever with very stiff penalties!" We provide solid evidence against you and we get a copy and pasted answer of you saying how you've had a million people tell you this or that, then you continue about how you are only saying what any parent would tell there children. Well if you haven't noticed Cindy besides me most of the people who have commented on this thread are grown adults who can legally make their own decisions.

Finally Cindy stop posting things like this on your blog. You aren't trying to prove why pot should be illegal your attention whoring. You post crap like this to attract people like me who disagree with you so heavily we'll stick around a post for a few days to a few weeks and you know that we'll do it. Now don't go ignoring this post like the last few I've posted and don't try any of that "Everyone above has apologized" crap, because I'll call you out on it and I will spam this blog.

Cindybin said...

Dear Gabe, Thanks again for yet another comment proving my point about why we all need to speak up against marijuana and why it should be illegal forever! I hope all the lawmakers and voters read it!

landon2018 said...

you always say its wrong to use mind altering drugs but never say why. These people would leave you alone if you just explained yourself a little. And, yes, I have read this entire thread of comments

Cindybin said...

landon, I have said TEN BILLION TIMES why it is wrong to use a mind-altering drug! Using a mind-altering drug to get high, have "fun", etc. is not what true fun or happiness is! Can't you see that?? And it is just plain immature! A grown adult should be well past the age where they'd want to use a mind-altering drug to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax and unwind, have "fun", enjoy life, etc. How many times do I have to say this? I shouldn't even have to tell you, you should just know! How old are you? Do you smoke pot?

Anonymous said...

hello, i would love some advice on how to get my immature and immoral friends to stop altering their minds via the use of pot? nothing to do with its legality please. thank you!!:)

nick said...

hi, its anonymous, the internet person who accused you of being a sociopath. I'd like to know what it is about using marijuana and other mind altering drugs that makes it immoral. And "they should know better" is not a valid answer.

Cindybin said...

Nick, I have addressed this a billion times over the past ten years! I have said over and over that it is immoral to use mind-altering drugs to get high and stoned and have "fun" because that is not what true fun is! Can't you see that?? You never smoked pot when you were a sweet, innocent little boy, did you? Of course not! You had fun playing, reading, going to school, opening birthday presents, and just living! You wouldn't even THINK about doing something like using DRUGS. You didn't know what drugs WERE! And when you DID find out about drugs, you knew it was the "bad kids" who used them. YOU wouldn't do something like that, because you were a good kid, right? So what HAPPENED to you? What changed you from that good kid to being one of the "bad kids" who uses drugs?? Go back and find that sweet, innocent little boy you used to be, and give him a hug.

Gabe The Ginger Lord said...

Ok Cindy, just because you say using pot is immoral doesn't mean it is. Using pot for recreation is exactly like playing a video game for a few hours. It lets you enjoy something whether that would be a game winning move or a boosted release of chemicals from a plant.

There is honestly nothing wrong with you marijuana as it one poses no health risks, besides the obvious of smoking anything, and secondly because people can do what they wish to their bodies. I personally eat to much but I'm still healthy and in a fit state of mind, people who smoke pot are in a fit state of mind as well, albeit during the high they might be a little slow to some things.

Anonymous said...

Hi'ya Cindybin, This is Splinterboat. You may remember me from the youtubes. Regarding your last comment here on your blog, I have two things to point out. 1) People are incapable of just knowing that drugs are bad. To know that they would have to have been taught that knowledge. Just as people have to be taught the concept of religion. So that brings me to point #2, Your view on all that you disagree with is noting more than your opinion. An opinion that was formed by you through external influences. And as we all know, having experienced it personally, everyone has an opinion. And yours is no more valid, pertaining to other people's existence, than theirs to yours. Oh and on another topic, Don't the Mormons / LDS have views on lying? Something about being thrust into Hell, or some mumbo jumbo like that. You should really lay off of telling folks that everyone wrote to apologize to you. We all know that's nothing but a lie. Will you allow this on this thread? I doubt it. But I will save it to post on your YT channel if you don't. We all know that the responses you get give you a High. Face it Cindy, you're addicted to the negativity and controversy. It's more than obvious, by the look of your Google+ page, you seek out the Responses you get like a junkie seeks out their next fix. How utterly pathetic.

Cindybin said...

Ah, yet more comments that illustrate my point exactly about why should all speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever! I hope all the lawmakers and voters read these comments! Trying to compare drug use to playing a video game. Yeah right. Gabe, you must be the 200th person just this week to tell me that smoking pot is no different than going to an amusement park, playing a video game, reading, watching TV, etc. THAT ISN'T TRUE AND YOU KNOW IT! We don't purposely ingest a mind-altering drug into our system when we play video games or do any other activities like that! Smoking pot is DRUG USE! It is ingesting a mind-altering drug into your system to get high, have "fun", etc. That is NOT what TRUE fun is! Can't you see that??

And then all the other stuff you guys have said...sheesh. Again, you all need to GROW UP. I have never seen such immoral, immature people in my life since coming to the Internet. I had no idea that people could be like this.

Anonymous said...

...I need a joint

Gabe The Ginger Lord said...

Actually Cindy you are the once who's wrong. Playing a video game, watching TV, even ingesting chocolate, yes your beloved chocolate, all have the same effects on the brain as cannabis does. They all stimulate certain parts of the brain that produce amphetamines and other chemicals that naturally make you feel good.

And Cindy don't tell me that I need to grow up, what with you responding to perfectly logical comments of people who back their claims with evidence with pre typed comments that you probably have saved onto a word file stating that these people who make legitimate claim are the reasons weed should be banned forever. Unless you haven't noticed Cindy almost everyone whom has posted on this thread alone have all given evidence towards the positives of legalizing cannabis and how it actually help certain social groups. Have you noticed how people whom are in the lower class who get busted for using marijuana serve any where from 10-20 years in a federal prison just for having said drug in their possession? Where as middle class people like you, who use marijuana get maybe a year or 2 in a local jail. You can't deny solid evidence Cindy, studies have shown time and time again that cannabis can help America and its people. You shouldn't be going around telling people not to use it just because it's immoral, which in fact it isn't.

You base all of you moral judgement off of your religion. Well last I checked there were quiet a few religions in this world that disagree with yours and they might think that using a drug that doesn't majorly affect your mind might actually be the best thing to get closer to whatever they believe in. And don't come at me with your "I am a convert to the Morman Church" I couldn't give less of a horses crap whether your a convert or not. Just because your a convert means nothing, for all I care you could be a Satanist and I will still call you out for judging people whom you dont even know as people just because they defend the recreational use of cannabis.

Now don't think that I can't find every other media outlet you use because I can, and trust me this comment will be on everyone of them if you even try to ignore me.

Cindybin said...

Gabe, AAARGGHHHH! WHEN WILL YOU EVER GET IT??? Even after ALL I HAVE SAID, you still say the stupidest things imaginable! You just keep posting comments to FURTHER illustrate my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever! I hope all the lawmakers and voters read your comments! Please, post your stupid comment wherever you can! It's a classic!

Gabe The Ginger Lord said...

Cindy I kid you not you make me laugh. You are either the most ignorant person I've seen or you're just plain stupid. Everything I have said is the farthest from stupid you can get when reading posts from you!

You can't claim I'm stupid when you can't even back your own claims. See Cindy this is why everyone disagree's with you! AND I do GET IT, after everything you've said you have convinced me to argue with you. I'm even enjoying it at this point! What you say is ridicules and gets even more so as you reply with every comments! When you will you SEE Cindy, after what ALL I'VE SAID, that what you are doing obviously flawed. I can almost for sure say that you are an attention whore. There is no reason for you to continue posting blog threads even posted like this. You are drawing people in, like I stated a few days ago, just so they can argue with you! You need to stop Cindy, you either enjoy this as much as I do because you enjoy the arguments or you get buzzed from doing this. There is literally no reason for you to be doing this! Heck I'm not even going to talk about pot use this whole comment will be focused on your flaws.

You claim that cannabis is immature and sets a bad example. Please digress beyond the standard "You don't want you kids to grow up using pot, look at them on the playground" etc. Most people warn there children, and don't threaten them with a beating (which in the US was considered child abuse last I checked) or grounding them just because they disagree with them. A good parent would be open to an argument and would point out what is wrong with their child's argument. Not just blast at them that using a drug is immoral.

Give me a solid answer to why people shouldn't use Cannabis and I will leave this blog. And don't bother with the immoral crap and your Mormon beliefs, I was solid facts as to why you think people shouldn't use cannabis. And don't ignore me Cindy, you know what I'll do if you ignore me.

Cindybin said...

What is WRONG with you?? Who said I'm about "threatening kids with a beating"? I NEVER SAID THAT! All I'm saying is that most parents raise their kids to know better than to ever smoke POT! What a thing to do! They don't "threaten them with a beating"! Heck, my parents never even said anything to me about drugs! And I sure never smoked pot! That was totally crossing the line! The kids who I imagine did that sort of thing in high school never talked to me and vice versa! I was friends with the NICE girls, the ones who didn't use drugs!

And then you say that "everyone disagrees with me." Oh brother. MOST PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME! Can't you see that it is the immature, immoral pot smokers who are making all these stupid comments?? And people like you? What does that tell you?? I have told my husband and friends the things you guys say, and they laugh and roll their eyes!

And I have said a billion times how FURIOUS it makes me when you blame my religion on my stance on drugs! I wish I had never made it known I am Mormon! It has been nothing but trouble ever since I started saying this! You people are just horrible! You always accuse me of only being against marijuana because of my religious beliefs. I have said over and over that I was NOT EVEN RELIGIOUS IN HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE AND I SURE NEVER SMOKED POT! And my husband isn't Mormon and he doesn't smoke pot, and we don't know anybody in real life who smokes pot, approves of it or even knows where to find marijuana, religious or not! Can't you understand that??

Again, you prove my point EXACTLY about why we all need to speak up against marijuana and why it should be illegal forever, with very stiff penalties. Look at you! Instead of being a nice, decent, mature guy and commending and supporting me for saying we shouldn't use drugs and that you can get into trouble with the law if you get busted, you come here and say all this stupid, stupid stuff I've heard a billion times. I never even used to THINK about pot before all this! But boy have you guys opened my eyes! And you guys are the NICE ones! You aren't even cussing at me or threatening me with death and bodily harm, etc. Every day I get death threats from pot smokers, guys telling me they're going to hunt me down and kill me, torture me and my family, they attack my religion, my looks, my sex life, make mean videos and websites about me, make fun of me for collecting dolls, call me every name in the book including the c-word (like THAT is going to get me to realize it's okay to get high on drugs).

Anonymous said...

Splinterboat again, I thought of something and I really wanted to get your take on it. There are quite a few different species of animal who actively seek out and consume vegetation specifically for the intoxicating feeling. Things such as fermented berries and fruits that give a drunk feeling to psychoactive fungi and plants for the "high". Are they wrong for practicing such behavior? Are they immoral and immature? Should they know that what they are doing is wrong? As I understand it, We are just another form of animal on this planet. Please post and respond.

Anonymous said...

i want to smoke a blunt and bust a nut on your face :)

Anna Tab said...

Hi CindyBin!!!! Just wanted to let you know that someone began a blog dedicated to ranting about you!!!! That is TERRIBLE!!!! Also, another person wrote a hate post about you!!!! Also, I completely agree with you!!!! Everyone SHOULD learn from your wonderful example!!!! I don't use profanity, drink alcohol, smoke pot, smoke cigarettes, have tattoos, etc. MARIJUANA SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. IT'S SAD that people think like this. I'm FLABBERGASTED about what's happening to you!!!! I collect dolls too!!!! I'm an adult!!!! Oh, and here are the links:
www.cindybin2001theidiot.wordpress.com
www.hatethisandthat.wordpress.com
Also, here is another link to a blog that posted about you:
www.strawberryfrostbite.blogspot.com
I'm completely on your side!!!!

amymomof3girls said...

I certainly never gave you an apology!

Cindybin said...

amymomof3girls: Nice to see you again. Yes, I know you didn't give me an apology. You said you agreed with me that we shouldn't smoke pot and that it should be illegal.

Morbid Emptiness said...

Hi Cindy, I'd like to know why you feel the need to try and dictate the way other people live their lives. Maybe you could politely enlighten me. Thanks.

Kaicee said...

I think you need a new perception of what 'nice' is. Every comment I see is politely sharing their opinion with you, but you still come back with "Thank you for proving my point - this is why marijuana should be illegal forever!" without ever giving real reasons.

So.............weed should be banned forever just because poor little Cindy can't handle when people disagree with her?

~Lauren~ said...

Hi Cindybin. I am a pot user, and I’d like to say that I am sorry to hear that other people who smoke pot have treated you so badly online, and I’d like to add, please don’t judge an entire demographic of people simply because some of them have been jerks to you. In this world, some people are very bad people, others are amazing people, and everywhere in-between, the same applies when you’re looking at any group. Some people who smoke pot are jerks, others are great people.

I bet there are a lot of pot smokers out there who you might actually become great friends with, if you didn’t know they smoked marijuana. – Pardon me if I’m wrong, but as you seem fairly closed-minded, I imagine you would not give a friendship with a pot smoker a chance.

Anyways, in response to what your post was saying, you said “The whole object is to get people NOT to smoke pot!” …. Who says that’s the whole object? That may be your object, but there are huge groups of people who study science, medicine, or politics, or even just groups of people among the basic public who have a goal of improving the way people like you see marijuana. You cannot criticize people for ‘missing the point’ when they’re aiming at a different goal than your own.

America is in no shining financial situation. The tax revenue in the legalized states could prove very beneficial to the country. Now, I agree with you that harmful drugs should not be exploited for money, because I feel it would be wrong to gain money from the exploitation of a drug that does nothing but harm, and ruin lives. But pot doesn’t cause harm, or ruin lives, or anything of the sort. That is where the difference in our opinions lie. I do not see anything wrong with pot use. The country is able to receive money from marijuana, all while it’s helping people, or at the very least, doing nothing but simply helping someone relax. (Yes, I know you say it’s oh so wrong to use pot to relax… and I’d like to ask you to elaborate on this…. WHY is it wrong to use pot to calm your nerves?)

You said in an earlier comment on this post, that the legality of pot isn’t an issue, it’s the people who do it. So far, the only reason other than “It is WRONG!” I’ve seen you give is the pot smokers aren’t nice. You said the law is a moot point, it’s the people who are the problem. How can you possibly justify this? Have you met and become acquainted with every single pot user on the planet, and decided that they’re not a good person? You can’t say that we’re all bad people, based on your own experiences. I agree that people cursing you out, and sending death threats, is absolutely horrible, and I understand your anger and frustration with this, but it is not right for you to assume that every pot user is like that.

You’ve said (Multiple times that I’ve seen, and I’d assume way more) that it is wrong to smoke pot. That people shouldn’t be lighting up a joint, or anything like that. Although, I’ve yet to see you give a reason as to why. I don’t see why it is wrong. Everyone has their own opinions, and I respect you for having them, and being brave enough to share them on the internet – where blunt, rude and vulgar replies are usually to ensue (As I know you’ve found out) but I think it’d be nothing shy of reasonable for you to provide a reason that pot is wrong, other than simply claiming that it is “Wrong”

You’ve most definitely and clearly expressed your opinions in this post, although you have not given any REASONS, which I found odd in a post titled “WHY marijuana should be illegal forever.” It seems you’ve forgotten the ‘why’ part.

So to sum everything up, I’d like to say again, not everyone who smokes pot is the same, and I’d like to see you having an open mind to new information, and I’ll do the same, if you can provide me with a few actual reasons that support why marijuana is so wrong, and why it should be illegal. I don’t feel that I have, but if I offended you in anyway throughout my comment, I’d like to sincerely apologize. Have a nice day. :)

Cindybin said...

Thanks for your comments, everyone! Just keep posting!

~Lauren~ said...

Thanks for acknowledging my comment! But I'm still waiting to hear from you.

You're leaving all your readers hanging! We clicked on an article "Why marijuana should be illegal."
But you've yet to tell us why it should be.

All you've stated that it's wrong to collect money from marijuana sales(Which is a personal opinion and not backed up at all)and the pot smokers online that you've encountered have been mean.

I apologize, but I'm failing to see legitimate reasons that you've given us.

You've been saying you want lawmakers and voters to read this, but even if they did, I don't see what good it would do for you. All you've said is your own opinions and conclusions. (And it's great that you're sharing and discussing your opinions, don't get me wrong.) but in order for your opinions to push toward a change of law - it would require REAL evidence - something that you're severely lacking.

Bakerman said...

You can't possibly be serious. Honestly, that's your main point on why we shouldn't smoke weed? Because the people who use it, like it, and/or need it defend it?

What else would you expect, them suddenly changing their entire opinionated stance on the matter, simply because some women online says that it's immoral and wrong? Of course they're going to defend pot use!

You mentioned that you're a convert Mormon. Imagine someone starts telling you all about "facts" about your religion, and how wrong you were?

"Being a Mormon, is completely WRONG! Why don't people get it?!!?! Mormons are closely tied to SATAN! Didn't your parents raise you better than to become a MORMON!? And can you even believe those Mormons online? Every one of them I talked to was a jerk, so I bet every single Mormon out there is a complete jerk, and the entire religion should be illegal forever!"

..... now, if someone said that to you would you be angry? I imagine so. And you'd have every right to be angry, and every right to defend your religion.

When people start going on about topics they know nothing about - but act as though they do, it tends to spark anger in some people.

Youre telling pot smokers what they can, and can't do, without ever even explaining to them WHY.

This is why you've gotten so many reactions like you have. Now, I'm not saying this is okay, I agree with you that it's awful that people sent you death threats, or other mean things, or whatever they may have said.

But my point is, when you start telling a group of people everything they do is wrong, they're going to get defensive, and a little angry.

It's wrong for people to send you mean things over your beliefs, but that in no way shape or form is an even CLOSE to justifiable reason as to why pot should be illegal. I'm sorry, but it seems rather petty and childish.

I don't smoke pot. Never have, and don't plan to, but looking at this post from an open-minded standpoint, it's clear that you lack real reasons, and should do a little more research on the facts before you post.

Cindybin said...

Oh you guys are doing GREAT! Thank you so much for your comments. I don't have to do a thing! Except click "approve" of course, heehee...

~Lauren~ said...

Cindybin, I think that you get nothing but pure enjoyment from angering people. You post things, that make no sense, and you mindlessly bash people's opinions. Now of course, a lot of people online do this, although I think if you're going to be saying things like these, then you should reply when people wish to discuss them with you.

I looked you up, because a friend mentioned your online name, and said that you were an anti-pot activist. As I have opposite beliefs, and enjoy calm discussion about controversial topics, I decided to look you up. I read the most recent marijuana-related post I found on your blog (That being this one) and I read your article, keeping an open mind to your opinions, and then I read the rest of the comments here.

As I was reading, I developed a few points and questions that I thought might be interesting to discuss with you, although when I bring them up to you, you merely ignore everything I've said, and reply with "HeeHee" as if you were a small child. Now THAT, Cindybin, is immature.

I love to see people online who have diverse opinions, and I like to discuss my own opinions. I know you have immense frustration dealing with the people online who are jerks, but I was hoping that you'd come out and discuss your thoughts with people who actually have basic intellect, and will not be mean toward you for no reason, but instead you don't even say a word in regard to my comment, even when I attempted to be especially polite to you.

If you post an article, claiming that something should be illegal forever, you should atleast back it up, and have the DECENCY to respond to questions, comments, and interest generated by your post.

Anyways, after this demonstration I know that you're not who I thought you were. I thought you were serious about your attempts to stand up for what you believe in, but clearly that's a complete joke.

You can't even conjure up a decent defensive reply to a 15-year old girl on the internet. You don't have real reasons, but clearly this is just something you do to kill extra time when you've got nothing better to do.

I'm sorry for disturbing you... I was under the false delusion that you were a serious and intelligent women with opinions that matter to her. (Ha-ha)

Cindybin said...

Oh I know, nothing that I say makes sense. I'm just off my rocker. Yep.

~Lauren~ said...

Ohh, splendid! Glad to see we agree.

Perhaps you might listen to what you've told a lot of people online and grow up. And maybe even seek out the mental help you need. I think that would prove highly beneficial to you! :)

I'll be leaving now, and I sincerely wish the best to you, and hope that you get yourself all sorted out upstairs. Don't worry, lots of great people suffer from mental disorders.

Bye, good luck! :)

Cindybin said...

Lol, thanks for stopping by!

Anonymous said...

"And what type of woman is going to want to date or marry a guy with an attitude like yours? Don't you want to marry a NICE young lady? Someone who will be a good mother to your children someday? Aren't you worth that?? A NICE young woman is NOT going to want to marry a guy who smokes pot or who thinks nothing is wrong with it!"

I disagree with this statement. Reading your comments back and forth with him, I think he could easily find someone nice to share his life with.

I'm a woman, and I consider myself a nice person. Gabe seems intelligent and quite eloquent, especially considering his age. He told you he studies game design?

I'm a graphic artist who's done a little bit of game design, and it's tough.

He's smart, seems nice to me, stands his ground when he has an opinion, and I don't see anything wrong with the fact he supports cannabis use.

I've been married for two years, to a man who supports, and uses marijuna. And I know plenty of nice people who wouldn't have an issue with it.

Maybe YOU would never go for someone like that, but that's your opinions, and preferences. You cannot speak on behalf of every girl that you would classify as 'nice'

It's awfully mean of you to tell a 14 year old boy he's never going to find someone :/(Dont listen to her, I'm sure you will!! ^_^ )

Cindybin said...

I hope the judge appreciates that you are such nice people.

Anonymous said...

What judge? It's fully legal here!

Although, I was a patient even before it was legalized for recreational, so I'm good either way. :)

Cindybin said...

Where do you live that it's legal?

Anonymous said...

Plus, even if it were illegal here, the judges can base a lot off of strong character-references, and examples of good citizenship (Volunteer work, etc.)

In grade 12, I took a few law classes, and we sat in court to watch a few cases. I've witnessed someone being a nice person influence the case, especially with a minor charge.

Anonymous said...

Colorado :)

Cindybin said...

Thanks for letting us know what the law is like in Colorado! I hope the judges and courts read your comments! They need to hear this!

Anonymous said...

Did you really just say the judges need to know what the courts are like?

The judges are pretty much the main role in a courtroom. I think they know what goes on.

Cindybin said...

I mean all the lawmakers--judges, etc.--need to know what you guys are like, and they need to read your comments! They need to see what goes on in their state! You guys take the cake. I mean it.

Anonymous said...

I'm not following you. I understand what you're saying, but I don't get it. What's wrong with anything I've said.......?

I don't get what the judges/lawmakers seeing what I've said would achieve.

Can you point out what you mean....?

Cindybin said...

Sigh. Just the fact that you can't even understand how wrong you are proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever. You need to GROW UP.

Gabe The Ginger Lord said...

Oh why thank you Anon! ^.^

And wow has a been a while since I stopped by this old blog!

I must say Cindy, you are absolutely AMAZING!

108 comments on this single thread and you haven't given a straight answer to any of the questions you've been asked! I must say I get better arguments out of my 10 year old cousin!

But besides from that I'm deciding to take a creative point of view on this blog as a law maker!

Now let's suppose I've been through the 8 or so years it takes to become a law maker and I stumble across this blog because I need to be able to tell what the people think of Recreational Cannabis use.

Now the first thing I see is a picture of a young woman with a kind smile on her face with a block of text stating that Marijuana use is wrong and people should be punished stiffly for it's use because it's a mind altering drug.

Then I scroll down to see people pointing out their views on the subject. They seem civilized enough, so naturally I think that normal people support the use of Cannabis. Expecting a rational response from this kind looking young women, I'm confused as what I read is you saying that an Anon who is pointing out their beliefs is the reason Marijuana should be illegal forever! (Now lets Assume that said lawmaker doesn't just immediately leave your blog because they has human beings can probably guess your format of replies by now)

As I scroll down I see more and more people pointing out that you never directly state your reasons for pot being illegal rather than that it's "immoral and immature" and that pot smokers should just "grow up!" and then your reply by stating they are the reason pot should be illegal! At this point I leave the blog and look for other websites with people holding actual conversations about their stances on Marijuana!

Really Cindy, if a law maker sees this blog they aren't going to just side with you because you say they should! They will analyze maybe half the blog before leaving and searching else where. No one would ever take your reasons as true reasons to keep marijuana illegal.


Really Cindy actually read some of the comments you receive and think about them before you give out your cookie cutter responses! Please I'm asking you a civilized person to do that.

Cindybin said...

Thanks Gabe for your wonderful comment! You further illustrate my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever, with VERY STIFF PENALTIES! Again, it is not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it!

Have a nice day!

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Anonymous said...

You said you've been on the internet, advocating your anti-pot stance for a number of years, and apparently you've written a book?

How could you have possibly written an entire book when you can't even defend points from the opposite standpoint?

Your only "reasons" are your personal opinion of it being 'immoral' and the fact the pot smokers are the problem. You can't possibly justify either of them. How moral something is a subjective topic that can easily be debated, and cannot be used as a fact. Plus, you can't outlaw something based on SOME of the people who use it. Besides, no one other than you sees what's wrong with these people. Everyone's been nothing but polite, and properly justifying their opinions. Please explain to me how you call THAT the proof pot should be illegal?! That's crazy.

If you're going to be making these outrageous claims, defend them; PROPERLY. Please, and thank you.

Becka said...

When's episode 2 going to be out?

I don't know if you're the best troll on the face of the Earth or just crazy, but either way, I LOVE it! Keep it up Cindy!

Cindybin said...

Anonymous and Becka (and all the others here),

YOU are the only fact that anyone needs to realize that pot should be illegal forever, with very stiff penalties! Thank you for stopping by and expressing your thoughts on the World Wide Web for all the lawmakers, medical professionals and voters to see!

(Oh, and everybody please read Becka's comment on one of my other blogs about pot, the one about how pot smokers claim that there is no difference between smoking pot and watching TV.)

Charles said...

Hi, Cindy. From reading your article here, and the comments you've given, it's nothing shy of abundantly clear that you're against recreational pot use. You want people to listen what you have to say, and you want to change their mind, and show people why pot is bad.

You seem so shocked that people out there have differing opinions to your own.

This is the internet. On the internet there are so many different opinions about everything and anything floating around. But if you actually want to change someone's mind, or do something as large as actually impacting a change in law, then back them up with real facts.

People give you negativity, because you're bashing their views and opinions, without giving reasons. It's fine if you are against marijuana, you have the right to your opinion, but you should provide facts behind your reasoning. Everyone that I've seen commenting from the opposite stance has provided several, and very good reasons to support their ideas and opinions, but you've never given legitimate reasons, OR even dignified any of the comments with a real response that addresses the points they brought to your attention.

The only reason I've seen you give is this; "It is immoral! They should know better!" I noticed someone earlier in this thread pointed this out to you, and asked for a better answer. To this you said that getting high is not real fun.

This is the closest thing to a real argument you've got. "Getting high is not real fun!"

How can you decide what is real fun and what is not? 'Fun' is defined as something that brings pleasure to the person involved, or something that is amusing and/or enjoyable. This is what makes 'fun' a very subjective thing.

For example; Reading might be really fun to someone who is an avid reader and who enjoys getting lost in the tales of fictional adventure and hardships, while someone who's struggled to read their entire life, would find spending a night with a hefty-sized novel to be an absolute nightmare.

If the person in question is enjoying their high, and finding the experience enjoyable, then it is 100% real fun, and I don't think anyone should tell them otherwise.

I'm not saying that just because it can be fun (Which; like it or not, is true) it's completely okay, but that's the only argument you've got.

If you truly want to plead your case as to why marijuana should be illegal forever, then I highly suggest getting new points and arguments. All I've seen you do here other than say it's wrong is respond to all comments with "These comments further prove why marijuana should be illegal forever!"

To be completely honest and blunt, these comments do nothing but show the benefits of marijuana, and if lawmakers DID see this, it would probably push them toward legalizing it, NOT making it illegal forever. Sorry to tell you that, but it's the truth.

Listen to me, if you truly want to push toward weed being outlawed, then get yourself some real arguments, or at the very least, attempt to debate the points already brought to your attention. I'm honestly just trying to help you. Right now, nothing you've written will help your case. People listen to facts, not the moral-based opinions of a lady on the internet.

I personally am indifferent about recreational use of pot. Personally, I haven't developed an opinion either way, and reading this, I would say "Sure? Why not make it legal!" .... but that's because I've seen WAY more legitimate answers on the pro-pot side. Try finding real arguments that will be harder to deter. I thought maybe me playing 'Devil's advocate' and debunking your only argument might get you started on finding good ones.

I hope you take my advice, and I look forward to seeing what you'll write about in episode 2. Please remember to do your research first. I can't wait to see the next post!! Have a great day! :)

Becka said...

You're getting mixed up. That wasn't me :)

Then again, my username's just my first name, so I suppose someone with the same name could've said that.

Cindybin said...

Charles, AARGGHHH, you are yet another person who JUST DOESN'T GET IT! People ALWAYS tell me that I need to back up things with "facts". FACTS ABOUT WHAT??? Pot smokers always expect me to tell them about the "dangers of marijuana" and how it will kill you and how it's addictive, and how it will "ruin your life." They think THAT is why I'm against it. Just the fact that they think THAT is why I'm against pot proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever, with very stiff penalties. CAN'T YOU SEE THAT? You people are driving me crazy! Even after ALL I HAVE SAID over the years, and all that I said just on this thread alone, you STILL DON'T GET IT! How can I make it any clearer?? STOP FOCUSING ON THE LAW AND START FOCUSING ON THE POT SMOKERS! My whole point is that if people would just shape up and NOT SMOKE POT, the whole legal issue would be moot! How hard is it to NOT SMOKE POT? Where would one even FIND this stuff? It is ILLEGAL! I have never even SEEN marijuana! Nobody has ever offered it to me or anything! And I was a teen in the 70s! Same for my husband! And we sure don't know anybody NOW who smokes pot, approves of it or knows where to find it! Even if it were legal it doesn't make it right! What parent would ever raise their kids to grow up and use drugs to get high? At any age? What a thing to do! And we shouldn't use alcohol, either! A casual booze drinker is no better than a casual pot smoker, except they aren't breaking the law! People need to grow up and set an example and not use mind-altering drugs to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax, have "fun", etc. What a thing to do! And my whole point is that if people would just shape up and NOT SMOKE POT, there wouldn't even BE any drug laws or "drug war"! People would have the morals and MATURITY to not even have any desire to get high or stoned or tipsy or whatever you get from a mind-altering drug. So then there wouldn't even be any demand for things like marijuana or alcohol, because people wouldn't even be THINKING of these things! I sure never thought about pot! Nobody ever even offered me any or talked about it to me or anything! That's why I was so shocked when we got the Internet and I found all these pot smokers on it. And I made one little comment about how we shouldn't use drugs, and all heck broke loose. They all cussed me out, threatened me, made fun of me for collecting dolls, and of course they ALL thought that if only I knew how SAFE marijuana is, how non-addictive it is, and that famous, successful people smoke or smoked pot, that I'd suddenly realize it's okay to get high! OH BROTHER! Again, this proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever. There is no way we should want people like THAT walking around actually USING mind-altering drugs! What a scary thought! And again, that is why I speak up and try to help talk some sense into these people and get them to realize why we shouldn't use drugs! You should HELP me speak up about this! STOP FOCUSING ON THE LAW, AND FOCUS ON THE POT SMOKERS. When we get them to understand why we shouldn't use drugs, there won't even BE any "drug laws"!

Cindybin said...

And again, pot smokers and people like you honestly expect me come up with "real arguments" and "facts" about why we shouldn't smoke pot. Oh brother. The pot smokers expect me to say, "Well, you see, marijuana is evil. It is of the devil. If you smoke it you will surely die. You will also become addicted and go on to harder drugs. It will ruin your life. It will turn you into a stupid, lazy, good-for-nothing bum." And of course they can refute EVERY SINGLE THING I SAID. They will tell me how smart they are, that they are a good person, they are successful, that they have never used harder drugs, that Carl Sagan and President Obama smoked pot, blah blah blah. I hear this ALL THE TIME. As I said, I don't even SAY things like marijuana is dangerous or addictive and will ruin your life, yet this is all they hear! Just because I say we shouldn't smoke pot, they all AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME that I think that it is because it's dangerous and addictive and will ruin your life. It is all they hear. And THAT is all the proof I need. THAT is all the facts I need! Can't you see that?? That proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever! Do we really want people like that walking around actually USING mind-altering drugs?? Heck no! I mean, look at them! Look at YOU! You all honestly think that YOU and you alone are going to get me to THINK, and to present "facts" about the "evils of marijuana"? Oh brother. The pot smokers all think they can trick me or something, and that they'll get me to say how dangerous it is, and how it turns you stupid, etc. So then they can refute everything I say and feel FURTHER justified in continuing their drug use. That's what they want! It feels good to them! It is FUN to get high! They ADMIT this! They tell me this ALL THE TIME! And that is why I'm against it! That is what makes it wrong! If you don't smoke pot, you of ALL people should be supporting me and commending me for speaking up against marijuana and trying to help people and make a difference in the world. But no, you are just like all the others, telling me stuff I've heard a billion times the past ten years. I never even THOUGHT about marijuana before all this! But boy have you guys opened my eyes! Now I realize that it should be everyone's DUTY to speak up against pot and to make sure it is illegal forever! And again, nobody would even have to worry about being in jail for pot, if they would just shape up and NOT SMOKE POT! How hard is it to not smoke pot? Where would one even FIND it? It is ILLEGAL! Even if it were legal it doesn't make it right! So see? The problem is solved. It's very simple.

Cindybin said...

And I have explained over and over that my "book" is about my experiences on the old Yahoo boards and other sites when I spoke up against pot and alcohol and immodesty, and tried to defend lowcarb diets. It tells of how mean and horrible people were online, and the things they said. It shows just why we need to continue to speak up about these things. Just google The Cindybin Project and you should find my book. Some people call it a blog, but I call it a book because it is as long as a book and divided into chapters, etc. I worked so hard on that thing and thought I had made a difference in the world and that people understood! It has been online since 2006! Yet nobody seems to have read it! GO READ IT! It will explain everything! Heck, I shouldn't even HAVE to explain anything to you, you should just know! Weren't you guys taught any better than this? What parent would ever raise their kids to grow up and smoke POT?? At any age?? What a thing to do!

Gabe The Ginger Lord said...

Well Cindy, I'm honestly confused.

Now I've read over your last three comments a few times and have been thinking them over.

Firstly, why does smoking pot determine whether or not someone is a bad person?

"Where can you get this stuff? It's illegal!" Cindy that's like asking your neighbor who crows flowers that don't grow well, just because they don't grow well. Trust me Cindy, if there's a demand there's a supply, that's 9th grade world economics for ya.

Another thing, if you want the legal issue to be moot, then why say people should be stiffly punished for a passive drug that only affects the user, I've seen high people before, not once have I seen them do anything horrendous or illegal. They might be a little slow but nothing to ridicules! The legal issue is a waste of tax payers money, the war on drugs is a waste of tax payers money and to be honest people going to jail and getting felonies that will be on their public records for their entire lives just because they wanted to get high is a terrible thing.

And lastly Cindy, why is smoking pot so bad? How is it immoral, how does it affect you? I honestly want to know why you think pot is immoral, if it's just because it's mind altering then you should be doing rants about every narcotic in existent, because if you Cindy have ever had a surgery odds are you had a pain reliever, or an anesthetic, which like it or not, is a mind altering drug.

Now Cindy please give me real answers as to why you think pot is immoral! Tell me and I just might change my views on pot.



Cindybin said...

GABE, AARGGHHHH, DID YOU NOT READ A THING I HAVE WRITTEN OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS??? YOU PROVE MY POINT EXACTLY ABOUT WHY POT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOREVER! You just don't get it! Again, you are focusing on the LAW rather than the pot smokers! The more you do that, the more I keep saying that pot should be illegal forever! My whole point is that if people would just shape up and NOT SMOKE POT, the whole legal issue would be moot! How hard is it to NOT SMOKE POT?? Where would one even FIND this stuff? It is ILLEGAL! I have never had to worry about being in trouble with the law for pot! I've never smoked pot! I don't even know where to find it! Even if it were legal it doesn't make it right! Stop focusing on the LAW, and start focusing on the POT SMOKERS!

And then you say you have seen people high before and you haven't seen them do anything illegal??? LISTEN TO YOURSELF! The very fact that they are high is proof that they are doing something illegal! AND horrendous! Can't you see that?? Oh I just can't believe what I am reading! I can't believe people like you are real!

And you must be the 200th person just this week to try to compare medications for surgery, etc. to smoking pot! THAT ISN'T THE SAME AT ALL! Of course pharmaceutical drugs and medications can be dangerous and "mind-altering", but most people are taking these things to treat an illness or condition they don't want to have in the first place, not to get high and have "fun"! CAN'T YOU SEE THAT?? How could you even THINK of trying to compare someone taking medication to undergo surgery to someone lighting up a joint to get high or someone sipping champagne or drinking beer to get a buzz? THAT ISN'T THE SAME AT ALL!

Oh you people drive me bananas. I mean it. Comments like yours are ALL I NEED to prove that pot should be illegal forever, with VERY STIFF PENALTIES! Again, it is not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it! Like YOU!

Charles said...

Well, you say I just dont get it. So now I'm going to attempt to understand it.

You want it to be illegal forever (With very stiff penalties) but at the same time, you've also said you don't want anyone going to jail for it? If weed was completely illegal, with these stiff penalties you want, do you know how many people would be incarcerated over pot a year? A LOT. Plus a lot of money wasted on papers to file to get them there, and space in the prison wasted. I've heard you say (Multiple times on both) You don't want pot smokers in jail, but you want it to be illegal with stiff penalties......... I'm sorry, but that's rather hypocritical.

(Quoting you here) " Pot smokers always expect me to tell them about the "dangers of marijuana" and how it will kill you and how it's addictive, and how it will "ruin your life." They think THAT is why I'm against it. Just the fact that they think THAT is why I'm against pot proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever, with very stiff penalties."

So.... just because some of the potheads of the internet had a reasonable misunderstanding, it should be banned forever? On the internet there are hundreds of people who falsely believe that marijuana is dangerous, and actually would say things like that. A lot of people who are against pot are like that, so I think it's perfectly reasonable for someone to guess that you may think that way, if all they've heard about you is that you're against pot.

You said the law doesn't matter, and have been telling everyone to stop focus on the law, and focus on the pot smokers themselves. Do you not see how crazy this is? You can't change a law or have something banned by ignoring the law. Nothing can be banned just by a few people on the internet making comments on a blog. If a lawmaker saw this, he'd laugh.

Now, I believe one of the points you're trying to make is if you could get everyone to stop smoking pot, it wouldn't even need to be illegal, and we wouldn't have an issue. This is true, although, to be blunt and quite frank, you're never going to achieve this.

It's a nice thought and all, but firstly, you'd need to speak to EVERY SINGLE CANNABIS USER. A lot of people smoke pot. Plus not only that, but you'd need to convince each one to stop smoking pot, which is not likely. I doubt anyone is about to change their daily lives just because a lady online told them it's morally wrong in her opinion.

According to statistics, 14 Million people in AMERICA alone are regular recreational users of marijuana. Do you really think you'll be able to speak to each of them? Some of them probably aren't even on the internet, or have never even heard of you. Besides, even if you do speak to them, I'm sure a lot of them would want nothing to do with you, and leave you with some harsh words.

I get what you're saying, but I don't get what you're trying to achieve. You've said a few times the legal issue is moot, you don't care about the law, etc. So I know you're not trying to get a federal law actually changed. So... are you trying to just get EVERYONE to quit? What's your intention?

Rae said...

Im sorry to be so blunt, but you're crazy!!

You think you can get a law changed just based on the defensive stance? That's nonsense, seriously.

Just take a deep breath, and think about what you're saying. You're talking about how it should be against the LAW to smoke pot, but you also said to stop focusing on the law, and focus on the smokers. You can't change a law, by completely ignoring the legal system. If everyone did that, the world could get pretty crazy.

What if tomorrow they outlaw bananas because my great aunt is allergic to them, and she doesn't like when people mention them online, because it makes her sad.

Or maybe they'll outlaw purple pants..... because, well isn't it obvious?? Have you even SEEN the comments coming from the people who wear purple pants?!?!?!?! It is INSANITY! They're actually DEFENDING their sickly-purple pants!! Can you believe it!Aaaaaarrrggghh!! They just don't see how wrong it is!!!!!!!!!!! I don't even care about the law - because of these crazy people, purple pants should be illegal FOREVER! With very stiff penalties!!!!!


See how crazy things can get, Cindy? Thats what you sound like ;)

Cindybin said...

Rae, now see? You are yet ANOTHER Internet person who illustrates my point exactly about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever! Again, you JUST DON'T GET IT! Didn't you read a thing I wrote about how the more you guys focus on the LAW, the more I realize it should be against the law??? I explained all this SO WELL, and you still don't get it! STOP FOCUSING ON THE LAW AND HELP ME TALK SOME SENSE INTO THE POT SMOKERS ONLINE! Once they understand why we shouldn't use drugs in the first place, there won't BE any laws against pot! Nobody will even want to get high on pot, because they will have morals and values and maturity to not even be THINKING about using drugs to get high! Can't you understand that?? STOP FOCUSING ON THE LAW! The more you do that, the more I realize that pot should be illegal forever--not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it!

I have explained over and over how this all started 10 years ago on the old Yahoo boards where I went to dispel misconceptions people had about lowcarb diets. There were some marijuana stories there and I made one little comment about how we shouldn't use drugs and that you can get into serious trouble with the law if you get busted, and that even if pot were legal it doesn't make it right. I thought people would agree with me and that would be the end of it. But all heck broke loose. The pot smokers cussed me out, threatened me with death and bodily harm, attacked my religion, my looks, my sex life, made mean websites about me, made fun of me for collecting dolls, and of course they ALL accused me of thinking that marijuana is dangerous and deadly and "ruins your life." So I explained myself further, thinking they would understand. Wrong again. They STILL cussed me out and said these terrible things, and they went on to to tell me about the famous, successful people who smoke pot, as if that makes it okay. This shows you how pot smokers think! They honestly think that if only we knew how safe marijuana is, and that famous, successful people smoke or smoked pot, that we'd suddenly realize it's okay to get high! Do we really want people like that walking around actually USING mind-altering drugs?? HECK NO!

Again, you prove my point exactly about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever. You are yet another person who is focusing on the LAW rather than the pot smokers, and who doesn't even understand my point. My whole point is that if people would just shape up and NOT SMOKE POT, the whole legal issue would be moot! How hard is it to not smoke pot?? Where would one even FIND this stuff? It is ILLEGAL! I have never even seen marijuana! Even if it were legal it doesn't make it right! What a thing to do! People need to grow up and set an example!

Cindybin said...

Charles, STOP FOCUSING ON THE LAW!!! The more you guys focus on the law, the more I say that it should be illegal forever! DON'T YOU GET THAT?? Haven't you read a THING I've written?? Go back and read every single comment I've made! Read it all 15 times until you understand it! Stop focusing on the law, and help speak up against pot and get these Internet pot smokers to understand why we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs! If they would all just shape up and NOT SMOKE POT, the whole legal issue would be moot! How hard is it to NOT SMOKE POT?? Where would one even find this stuff? It is ILLEGAL!

Geez, how many times do I have to SAY all this?? Are you guys all that dense???

Cindybin said...

And Charles, my whole point is that yes, I know that lots of people smoke pot! People online tell me that all the time! Which is why I tell all these pot smokers I see online, "Just because OTHER people smoke pot doesn't make it right and doesn't mean YOU have to! Aren't you better than that? Of course you are!" I try to get them to THINK, to realize that they are too GOOD to be doing something like using drugs to get high and stoned and have "fun". It is immoral and just plain immature!

But then they cuss me out, threaten me, attack my religion, my looks, my sex life, make mean videos and websites about me, use lame excuses about how pot is safer than alcohol and cigarettes and that Carl Sagan smoked pot, and THAT is when I say that pot should be illegal forever, with VERY STIFF PENALTIES! Can't you see my point?? Do we really want people like that walking around actually USING mind-altering drugs? Heck no! They can't even understand why it's wrong and immature to use drugs! And they honestly think that if only I knew how safe marijuana is, and that people like Carl Sagan smoked pot, that I'd suddenly realize it's okay to get high! OH BROTHER!

That proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever. Again, I don't want anybody to go to jail for pot. I just want people to NOT SMOKE POT! Nobody would have to worry about being in jail for pot if they didn't smoke pot! How hard is it to not smoke pot?? Where would one even FIND this stuff? It is ILLEGAL! I have never had to worry about going to jail for pot! I've never even SEEN marijuana! That is why I was so shocked when we got the Internet about ten years ago and I found all these pot smokers on it. And I have worked hard to help them, to educate them. We all need to do this! We all need to speak up and make a difference in the world!

Instead of putting me down and focusing on the law, why don't you help me talk some sense into these Internet pot smokers? Together we could make a difference in the world!

Charles said...

I apologize if I offended you, Cindy. It was not my intent at all.

You keep saying to stop focusing on the law, and that's perfectly fine. But if we're not focussing on the law, then you have NO right to claim it should be illegal (Especially with the additional request of stiff penalties) Making something illegal, as you've said you wish to do, requires dealing with the law, like it or not.

But okay, let's move on. Lets ignore the law completely, shall we? Now, in this case, I'll re-visit what I talked about in my last comment, as you didn't seem to get it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I've gathered from what you're saying, is that if you could get every pot smoker to stop smoking pot, then it wouldn't matter if it was legal or not. But....... do you know how enormous of a task this would be? Virtually impossible, especially when pretty much none of them want to hear what you're saying. Don't you agree with that? You said you've been on the internet debating pot use with cannabis users, so surely you must know that most of them won't stop smoking pot just because of your suggestion.


I think what this boils down to is a debate of right and wrong. You want to "Talk some sense" into all pot smokers, and have everyone quit smoking pot. You say the sooner they understand that it's wrong, the sooner the problem will end. Although this statement is true, it's just not really a feasible plan.

Let's look at how strong your opinions are - you say pot is immoral, and wrong, and to you it seems obvious, and you are very strong about this opinion. Now, take all that same amount of strength that you feel pot is bad, and imagine someone who has the same strength of will in their opinions, but they believe pot is fine, and not wrong in the slightest. See how this can become an impasse?

You say they shouldn't do it because it's wrong to do, but to them, there is nothing wrong. This is why the argument over pot becomes such a controversial topic. Although, you cannot use your opinions of it being wrong, as if it were an unquestionable fact. (I know you don't like talking about the facts - but this is why people bring them into an argument, because opinions and comments aren't enough)

Cindybin said...

Charles, now see? You are even FURTHER proving my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever! You are STILL focusing on the law rather than the pot smokers. You are telling me the same stuff I have heard a billion times the past ten years!

Charles said...

No, I don't see how I'm further proving your point. Care to elaborate? Please do.

I'm not focusing on the law, other than my first statement, and a small reference to "facts" in my last paragraph.

Did you only read my opening comment? I went out of my way to act as if the law wasn't there.

I also explained (again) that it would be pretty much impossible to simply convince everyone to stop smoking it,though a nice thought.

I pointed out that what is wrong and what is right is a very debatable subject, and that a lot of pot smokers, are equally as adamant as you are.

How does this prove your point?

Rae said...

No one that Ive seen has put you down here, and you're calling everyone dense, and then getting upset because people apparently put you down? How?

No, I'm not dense, thank you, I understand that you don't want to focus on the law. It's you who doesn't understand that you can't ignore the law when you want to make something illegal. That's not how it works, hun.

I dont see how you can possibly say we can't focus on the law when you're looking at a legality matter. If you want to make it illegal, you can't ignore the law! They're not going to prohbit pot because of what the pot smokers say on the internet.

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ffk_-1ecuo

Don't say you can speak for every parent, a lot of parents are supportive of it! See?

Cindybin said...

Anonymous, thanks for yet another comment to prove my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever. You actually have the AUDACITY to send me a link to that horrible "Coral Reefer" person??? OH BROTHER!

Cindybin said...

Where are all the nice, decent, regular people?? Why do I keep getting POT SMOKERS and others like the ones who post here?? I don't know ANYBODY in real life who smokes pot, approves of it or knows where to find it!

And you people who are posting here, can't you see that if anybody read your comments, they would realize that pot should be illegal forever, with VERY STIFF PENALTIES??

Anonymous said...

I thought you said you weren't judgemental?? Yet you're calling Coral a terrible person? How can you possibly determine that? You don't even know her, Cindy. That's awful of you to be that way!

And then you go and act like you're too good to even watch her videos? What makes you think YOU'RE so perfect?

You tell people to stop putting you down, but it seems like you can't stop putting other people down. Reading all the comments on this, you've directly AND indirectly called people stupid, you told a boy he'd never find someone, you ignore what people say, and you judge people without knowing anything about who they are!

Gabe The Ginger Lord said...

To be honest with you Cindy, if a random person off the street saw this website they would laugh at you.

Not only do you completely ignore other people's opinions, you get upset at them for expressing those opinions. As Charles stated, you want to "Talk some sense into the pot smokers!" and "To stop focusing on the law and instead focus on the smokers" I won't lie cindy, you are just plain sad.

Pot smokers aren't the problem Cindy, if you come to my school you'll see that. Like 2/10 people that I know in that school do pot on occasion for fun! There isn't anything wrong with doing a drug that simply amps your Dopamine and Seratonin receptors.

And on the thing about where to can get it? Every where Cindy, pot is literally everywhere. There are people I know who grow it in their windows. It's not hard to come by.

But you also didn't answer my question, why does smoking pot make someone a bad person?
I want to know. Why do you as a human being think that smoking a naturally occurring plant makes someone else a bad person?

And one last thing, don't ever call my friends bad people just because they smoke pot. The internet is a cruel place, and I know my way around it. And trust me there are simple ways of doing some pretty amazing things with just a phone.

Cindybin said...

Gabe, AARRGGHHHHH! HAVE YOU NOT READ A THING I'VE WRITTEN OVER THE YEARS?? How many times do I have to SAY this??? I have said over and over how furious it makes me when people accuse me of thinking someone is a "bad person" if they smoke pot or drink alcohol! I DON'T THINK THAT AT ALL! My whole point is to get people to realize that they are too GOOD to be doing something like using drugs or alcohol! They are too GOOD to be doing this! Can't you see that?? It is like when a parent tries to teach their child how to behave, they stress that they are a GOOD little child, too GOOD to be misbehaving, that they should know better than that. Or that they are too GOOD to be impolite, that they are a GOOD person so they should be polite and say please and thank you! That is what I try to stress to the pot smokers and booze drinkers, they they are too GOOD to be doing something like this! We are all God's children, all good people! Do you really think Heavenly Father wants us to use a mind-altering drug to get high, stoned, buzzed, tipsy, relax and unwind, have "fun", etc. That is not what TRUE fun is!

And pot is ILLEGAL! If you get busted, do you think a judge will care if you are a good person? NOT WHERE I LIVE! You would be a number in the court room and treated like DIRT! And THEN you will wish you had listened to dear, sweet Cindybin who took time out of her busy day to help talk some sense into you and get you to realize that there is a better way to live! You should ADMIRE me for speaking up against drugs and helping to make a difference in the world! I have helped several people online stop using marijuana and alcohol! They have thanked me for speaking up and reaching out!

You tell your little pot-smoking friends that they are TERRIBLE for using marijuana! I hope they get busted, it would serve them right. It would be a wakeup call which they NEED! And where do they even find marijuana? It is AGAINST THE LAW! Who are they that they're above the law?? They should be ashamed of themselves, keeping the whole illegal drug trade in business and all the crime and violence by the cartels! Don't they read the news?? Think of the poor woman in prison for smuggling pot in her car over the border--planted in her car by the cartels. Her life is ruined, she can no longer raise her son, all because of immoral, immature punks like the kids you go to school with who want to "amp their dopamine and seratonin receptors." Again, I hope these punk kids get busted. And what are you doing hanging out with kids like that, anyway?? Most parents teach their kids to AVOID the other kids who use drugs! I sure never hung out with kids who used drugs! They never talked to me and vice versa! I was a NICE girl, and had nice girl friends!

Again, you prove my point exactly about why we all need to speak up against pot. It is because of you and all the others just like you, who always accuse me of thinking that anybody who smokes pot or drinks alcohol is a "bad person." OH THAT DRIVES ME BANANAS!

Cindybin said...

Anonymous, HAVEN'T YOU READ A THING I'VE WRITTEN?? I am saying that Coral Reefer is terrible because she SMOKES POT and makes videos about this like it's nothing! And when I tried to talk some sense into her about it a couple of years ago, she BLOCKED me! She rejected it! She sets a terrible example and goes against everything that most parents try to teach their kids about drugs and life! So do YOU!

And it makes me furious when you guys accuse me of saying that someone won't ever find a mate. THAT IS NOT WHAT I'M SAYING! I say that people need to think of the TYPE of person they are going to attract if they smoke pot or think nothing is wrong with it! Can't you see that?? Of course most people will find SOMEONE to date or marry, but think of the TYPE of person they will attract if they smoke pot or think nothing is wrong with it! People need to be aware of this and think of their future!

I mean it, you guys all take the cake. It is just UNBELIEVABLE the comments I am receiving here. Actually you'd think that after 10 years of this I would believe it, but I still can't. Just keep posting, everyone--you illustrate my point EXACTLY. I hope all the lawmakers and voters and medical professionals in the world read your comments!

Cindybin said...

And Gabe, I just saw your comment:

"And one last thing, don't ever call my friends bad people just because they smoke pot. The internet is a cruel place, and I know my way around it. And trust me there are simple ways of doing some pretty amazing things with just a phone."

What does THAT mean?? What are you TALKING about???

Cindybin said...

LISTEN UP, YOU PEOPLE!!! There is a very simple solution to this whole "issue" if you would just give the right answer! As of yet, nobody has even come close. All you people have to say is:

"Wow Cindy, you make some very good points! We really shouldn't use mind-altering drugs like marijuana or alcohol to get high, buzzed, stoned, have "fun", etc. What parent would ever raise their kids to grow up and do THAT? I really admire you, Cindy, for speaking up and taking a stand and helping all these Internet people see that they are too good to be doing such things, and that there is a better way to live. I shall join you in your endeavor. Together we shall make the world a better place!"

That is ALL you have to say. Or at least something LIKE that. Now is that really so hard?? Is it REALLY so hard to tell a nice, older woman, a mom and a grandmother, that it is a good thing she tries to help people understand why we shouldn't use drugs and that you can get into serious trouble with the law if you get busted?? Of course not. So just say this, and the whole issue will be moot. I wouldn't even be posting blogs like this if people would just say this to me. It's just SOOOO SIMPLE. It really is. Try it.

Gabe The Ginger Lord said...

All right Cindy I'll humor you!

Wow Cindy, your such a nice old lady, forcing people to think like you! Oh how I wish to join your hive mind o great overlord, lead us unto a great future as to where illicit drugs are forever banned and if people get caught they are put to death!

No Cindy it's not that simple. People won't just step up and say that you have valid points because you don't.

I just got back from MSBOA and I'm tired, so I'll keep this short.

Give us points to follow, not your moral beliefs but real reasons as to why people shouldn't use pot, trust me you can find evidence against everything if you spend 10 minutes on google.

Don't retype the same stuff you've been doing! I'm sick of seeing your cookie cutter replies, people obviously understand you, but you don't understand them. You outright alienate anyone with a differing opinion than you.

Here's a fun challenge for you Cindy how about you just come close to giving the right answer thats all you have to do!

Come on now is that hard to just say "Wow Gabe, you have some valid points! I appreciate that you have pointed out my flawed arguments! I will use this as a guide to how not to argue with people who think using pot should be legal!"
Come on Cindy is that so hard?

Gabe The Ginger Lord said...

Also, it means many things Cindy, and you don't want to have to find out what I'm talking about.

Cindybin said...

Gabe, OH YOU ARE JUST HORRIBLE! HORRIBLE! HORRIBLE! You are yet AGAIN accusing me of wanting people to be put in prison, of wanting drugs to be "forever banned", blah blah blah! THAT IS NOT MY POINT AT ALL! Can't you see that?? Are you that dense?? Are you that immature that you can't even see my point??

Again, STOP FOCUSING ON THE LAW! Stop focusing on making drugs illegal, etc. THAT IS NOT MY MESSAGE! My message is just to help people understand why we shouldn't use drugs to get high! I don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say! If you can't see that, then there is something wrong with you! I would love to show your comments to your parents!!! You need to be SPANKED. I mean it.

And don't you DARE threaten me. You start up with things like that, and I will call the police. I mean it.

Cindybin said...

I mean it, you people are the most immature, immoral people I have ever seen! You prove my point EXACTLY about why we all need to speak up against pot! You JUST DON'T GET IT!

Gabe, there is something wrong with you. Don't even bother to comment again because I won't read it and I won't be approving it. And if you DARE do anything like what you threatened, I will call the police. This is your warning. You guys start up with these threats and I take it seriously.

Go get help. There is something wrong with you. Again, do NOT bother to comment again, I will not read it and I will not approve of anything you say, it will be deleted immediately.

Anonymous said...

OH YOU ARE JUST TERRIBLE!!!!!!

You are the most stubborn, ignorant, conceded, inconsiderate, rude, person I have EVER encountered in my lifetime.

No, we're not all dense, we get what you're saying, and we're trying to politely inform you that it us NOT WORKING! Can't you see that??

You have NO right to say ANYTHING should be illegal!! You've said, probably more than 100 times, "STOP FOCUSING ON THE LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" If you don't want to focus on the law, then you lose ALL your say in what is and isn't illegal. You should change the title of this post immediatley. it currently says "Why marijuana should be ILLEGAL forever" ......."Illegal!" You're focusing on the law, Cindy! And people will continue to focus on it until you change your statement to something like "Why I personally feel that using marijuana is wrong!" That would be a more apt title.

You say the pot smokers are the problem. Get this through your thick head; NO ONE WILL EVER, EVER, EVER CHANGE ANY LAWS OR MAKE ANYTHING ILLEGAL BASED ON THE FACT PEOPLE DEFEND IT.


We all know that you thnk it's morally wrong. In response to your probably thousands of times you've asked "IT IS WRONG!! CAN'T YOU SEE THAT?!"

We're not imbeciles, we understand,and see that YOU think it's wrong, but we disagree, and we think (Just as adamantly as you) that it is NOT wrong.

You say you don't need facts. You said you were a teen in the 70s? So you're probably somewhere in your 50s now? I would have thought a women of your age would realize that they don't get things done based on opinions and nonsense.

If we ignore the facts, then we can make ANYTHING illegal.

"Pillows are evil!!!!!!!!"

"Do you have any facts?"

"I DON'T NEED ANY!!! NO ONE SHOULD EVER USE PILLOWS TO HELP THEM SLEEP! WHAT A THING TO DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"okay, thank you so much for telling us this!!!!!!! Pillows are now illegal forever!!!!!!!!!"


This is what you sound like! Honestly, you do.

It's not that we're just "Not getting it" it's that we disagree, and YOU refuse to have a civilised discussion to compare why marijuana might be wrong or right.

God! You say you want to change people's mind about pot, but let me tell you, this is NOT the way to do it, Ma'am!!

Elizabeth said...

Hi Cindy, I'll give you what you want to hear, as best as I can without compromising the truth of the matter.

Wow, Cindy! Even though you've not made a single legitimate point, it's great that you're so strong-willed and that you stand up against harmful drugs!(Such as cocaine, heroin, alcohol, oxys, etc.)Because it can ruin their lives and damage the users, although I think it's OK to use natural substances that are not harmful or wrong, such as cannabis.

What parent would ever want their kids to do HARMFUL drugs? I know my parents would be angry if I did anything other than pot.

I do admire that you stand for what believe in, but after seeing the way you you refuse to strengthen your own argument with the addition of facts, I regret to say, that I've lost all respect for you.

It's absolutely great you're speaking up against drugs, but I feel you are in severe need of a new approach, as your current one is not working.

I will not be personally joining you in your endeavour as our definitions of what is right and wrong differ, and it's become clear we would not be able to reach an agreement. I do, although wish you luck in what you're trying to do, and I sincerely hope that you'll take advice that you've been given to strengthen your argument, and improve your methods, to perhaps start actually achieving what you wish to.

Cindybin said...

AARGGHHH, YOU PEOPLE ARE DRIVING ME INSANE!! You STILL don't get it!

First of all, anonymous, I have every right to say something should be illegal. I can't MAKE anything be illegal, but I have every right to say it SHOULD be illegal, and again, can't you see that YOUR comment proves my point about why pot SHOULD be illegal?? Listen to yourself! Look at what you just wrote! Instead of being a nice, decent, mature person and commending and supporting me for speaking up against drugs, you are STILL focusing on the law and screaming at me about how I have no right to say something shouldn't be illegal, blah blah blah.

And then Elizabeth, it is TERRIBLE your parents don't mind if you smoke pot. What kind of parents would ever approve of their child growing up to smoke POT? At any age?? Most parents try to raise their kids with morals, values and maturity to know not to use mind-altering drugs to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax and unwind, have "fun", enjoy life, etc. And I know many of these same parents who would NEVER smoke pot because "drugs are bad" think nothing of using a mind-altering drug in the form of alcohol. But they are hypocrites.

And again, if you get busted, it will NOT HELP to tell the judge that pot is safer than hard drugs. DO YOU REALIZE THAT?? Where I live, the judge would laugh in your face and throw you in jail for making excuses for breaking the law!

Oh I just want to cry. I can't believe this. I write a simple blog that I think will HELP people, that will get people to THINK, to feel ashamed and embarrassed that they ever used drugs, and that they will thank me for speaking up and reaching out and trying to help them realize that there is a better way to live, and you all REJECT it. You all say the most stupid, ridiculous things that I have heard a billion times, ever since made that one little comment ten year ago on an old Yahoo story about how we shouldn't use drugs and that you can get into trouble if you get busted. That is what started it all, when the pot smokers all attacked me after that. I wasn't even THINKING about marijuana before that time. I went to those old Yahoo boards to dispel misconceptions people had about lowcarb diets! But you pot smokers and others have OPENED MY EYES. Now I realize that we all need to speak up against pot and that it SHOULD be illegal forever. Just read the comments here! READ THEM! I hope all the lawmakers and voters and medical professionals read each and every comment here.

Anonymous said...

You can't ignore the law, and then talk about what you think should be illegal.

It's obvious you can't change laws. But it doesn't make sense for you to all of us to stop focusing on the law, when YOU'RE focussing on the law, even in the very title of your argument. Notice the hypocrisy?

It's fine if you want to ignore the law, but if you do that then you shouldn't be taking about anything being illegal.

If you want to say that it should be illegal, then allow the law to be brought into conversation without flipping out.

Elizabeth said...

A LOT of good parents approve of their kid smoking pot, as long as they're at an age where they can do so responsibly, and it doesn't hinder their daily activities in any way, or endanger them.

My parents tried, and succeeded in raising me with morals, and values. They also raised me to be mature, and to be able to decide what is good or bad for me. My parents raised me well, and they're both amazing and wonderful parents.

Thank you for the concern, but I won't be getting "Busted" any time soon, as there are no legal issues involved with my pot smoking, so I won't have to worry.

Although it's absolutely TERRIBLE to hear that! The judge were you live should lose their licence. Judges should be professional, and not mock people!! I'm truly appalled and disgusted you told me this. Laugh in your face and treat you like dirt? That's disgusting, and terrible. Are you PROUD of this or something? Citizens should be treated FAIRLY, no one can be thrown in jail for simply defending themselves! That's why courts exist! Do you live in Saudi Arabia or something!? Or are you just vastly over-exaggerating and aggrandizing the situation? (I imagine it's the later.)

Cindybin said...

Anonymous, now see? You are STILL proving my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever!

When are ANY of you going to give the right answer? It really isn't hard!

Anonymous said...

How the heck am I proving your point? In my last comment, I wasnt even discussing POT! All I did was point out why you can't ignore the law when talking about legality.

Cindybin said...

Elizabeth, I can't believe you are real. I don't know ANY parents who would approve of their child growing up to smoke POT! Most parents try to raise their kids with morals, values and common sense to know not to use drugs to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax and unwind, have "fun", enjoy life, etc. What a thing to do!

And it drives me nuts when people say it's okay to smoke "responsibly." My whole point is that a RESPONSIBLE person would not want to use a mind-altering drug in the first place!

And as far as what I said about the law, I am just stating the facts. Where I live in Illinois, the laws are strict. You could go to jail just for having an empty pipe, even if the pipe wasn't yours and you never smoked pot in your life. The judge won't care if you tell them that it wasn't yours. They've heard it all before and if they believe you, they'd have to believe all the others who say the same thing. The law is the law. All they care about is what you plead: guilty or not guilty. They won't care if you tell them that pot is safer than alcohol, or that you get good grades or that marijuana hasn't "hindered your daily activities", etc. Where I live, the judge would laugh in your face and throw you in jail for making excuses for breaking the law! Kids need to realize that!

But even if pot were legal it doesn't make it right! Can't you see that? Tell your parents to email me, I'd love to talk to them.

And you are yet ANOTHER pot smoker who tells me that pot hasn't hindered your daily activities, or harmed you, blah blah blah. Why do you guys always think that I think that if you smoke pot, it's going to "ruin your life" or harm you? I DON'T THINK THAT AT ALL! This is why I continue to speak up against pot, to EDUCATE you people. You obviously need my help and guidance. You all think that if only I knew how safe marijuana is, and how it hasn't affected your life negatively, etc., that I'd suddenly realize it's okay to get high. It doesn't even OCCUR to you that people are against marijuana because it's a mind-altering drug! And just the fact that you can't even see this proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever, with VERY STIFF PENALTIES. Again, it is not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it!

Elizabeth said...

Once again, it's SICKENING that a judge would LAUGH at anyone!! It's absolutely DISGUSTING. What about in a murder trial? I bet that one's a real knee-slapper, eh? ANY judge, or any legal professional should lose their job over something like that!!!!! Although, I'm pretty confident, that they wouldn't laugh at you, and you're just saying that to prove your point.

Now, just because you don't know any parents who support it, doesn't mean there aren't any. I know a lot of adults who would approve of it.

In my opinion, marijuana is a beautiful, and wonderful plant, a gift found in nature, given to us by God himself. Notice it's the only "Drug" that isn't pumped full of unnatural chemicals? The EARTH is what gives us weed. How can that be so wrong?

Whether it's legal or not, I see NOTHING wrong with lighting up a joint, or taking a bong hit, nor will I ever see anything wrong with it. I don't consider pot to be a "Mind-altering drug"


I won't tell my parents to email you, as I know how much it frustrates them to deal with closed-minded and ignorant people who are impossible to have a civil conversation with. So, obviously I would not wish speaking to you upon them. Although if you really want to know more about their beliefs, then ask me, I've known them my entire life.

So.... in your last paragraph, you agreed that pot can not harm you, ruin your life, or even negatively affect you in the slightest. You said that there is nothing wrong with pot, and marijuana is not the problem, but the people who defend it.

Whaaaaat?! That doesn't make sense! How can you be against marijuana, when you said yourself, it's not the problem?

Plus,you can't prohibit something based on the people who defend if. If you presented that to a board room of lawmakers, they'd laugh you right out of the room. (Especially if they're anything like the judges!)

Cindybin said...

Elizabeth, have you not read a thing I have written?? I have said over and over a million times that marijuana is a DRUG when you use it to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax and unwind, have "fun", enjoy life, etc. That is what makes it wrong! That is why people are against it! We shouldn't use mind-altering drugs for these reasons! This is good morals and just plain common sense! What parent would ever raise their kids to grow up and do THAT? At any age? Most parents teach their kids to AVOID drugs, not encourage them to grow up and get high on POT! And it is ILLEGAL! Parents HAVE to tell their kids to avoid drugs! No parent wants to bail their child out of jail and have them face a stern, harsh judge who doesn't know them from Adam and treats them like dirt. But even if pot were legal, what parent would EVER raise their kids to grow up and use it to get high? I don't know a single one.

If your parents would think that I am close-minded and ignorant, then no wonder you are the way you are. Well never fear, I am here to help. Tell me what is troubling you, my dear. How old are you? When did you start smoking pot and why? What is missing from your life that you would want to use a mind-altering drug to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax and unwind, have "fun", etc.? Don't you have any hobbies or interests? Are you a student or do you have a job? What are your career aspirations? Please tell me more about yourself. We will get to the root of your troubles. I am here for you.

Anonymous said...

You know Cindy last I checked we have prescription drugs, many prescription drugs in fact, that are solely designed for people to relax, unwind, or have fun.

They're called Anti Depressants, or stimulants, they activate the parts of your brain that release dopamine and other "happy" chemicals to help people with depression or anxiety unwind, relax and have fun! Are these people bad people? NO!

Guess what pot has medically been proven to do Cindy! Help people relax, unwind, and alleviate pain! If people use pot as a drug to have fun why should that be illegal? The people are still good people, just because they used a plant that's been grown since the early AD's doesn't mean they are bad people.

And Cindy, why do you ignore people's questions? I've seen at least seven people on this thread ask you why you think using pot is immoral, I've read through several other of you posts that in one way or another mention "mind altering drugs" and not once have you directly answered anyone's question as to why you think pot is immoral.

Elizabeth said...

"when you use it to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax and unwind, have "fun", enjoy life, etc. That is what makes it wrong! That is why people are against it! We shouldn't use mind-altering drugs for these reasons!"

"These Reasons?" What reasons? You didn't give any! Unless your reason is simply telling me that it's wrong.

I understand that you think it's wrong, but this is where we have differing opinions. I don't think it's wrong, and like many people, I think it's perfectly fine, and an in fact, wonderful thing.

I apologize if this is coming as a shock to you, but you completely ignore any new ideas or information that is brought to your attention (Which is why I believe you are closed-minded) and you discuss things you've admitted to having no experience with, (This is why I consider you ignorant.)and because of this, I don't want my parents speaking to you, as I know it would do nothing but frustrate them, and I don't wish to damage my mother's high blood-pressure. Plus, I know they just prefer not to deal with people like you.

I appreciate you're trying to "help" But I'd like to begin by telling you to not patronize me as if I am incapable of understanding things that happen around me.

Although I'm almost sure you don't actually care in the slightest, if you must know;

I am recently 18 years old, I've been smoking pot since I was about 12 years old. There is nothing "Missing from my life" I just enjoy using cannabis, although my original use stemmed from severe depression, which over the years, has dissipated to a very minimal amount.

I'm a grade 12 student, graduating this year. I do have a few hobbies, I enjoy both writing and reading. I am into graphic design, basic script programming, and I also like to dabble a little bit in photography.

I'm currently employed with a screen-printing company as head of their graphic art department. I plan to continue throughout this career, and I would like to maybe be an author as a side-job.

I have a good life, and I don't really see any problems with it, other than worldly-issues that bother me, but when it comes to my personal life; I don't see anything wrong with it. My life is not some broken-down mess of shambles, so I turned to drugs to soothe my "Troubles", like you're probably assuming.

I'm just a normal person, who happens to use cannabis. Why? Because it's perfectly natural, and there's nothing wrong with it.

Cindybin said...

Anonymous wrote: "You know Cindy last I checked we have prescription drugs, many prescription drugs in fact, that are solely designed for people to relax, unwind, or have fun.

They're called Anti Depressants, or stimulants, they activate the parts of your brain that release dopamine and other "happy" chemicals to help people with depression or anxiety unwind, relax and have fun! Are these people bad people? NO!

Guess what pot has medically been proven to do Cindy! Help people relax, unwind, and alleviate pain! If people use pot as a drug to have fun why should that be illegal? The people are still good people, just because they used a plant that's been grown since the early AD's doesn't mean they are bad people.

And Cindy, why do you ignore people's questions? I've seen at least seven people on this thread ask you why you think using pot is immoral, I've read through several other of you posts that in one way or another mention "mind altering drugs" and not once have you directly answered anyone's question as to why you think pot is immoral."

My reply to Anonymous: AAARGGHHH! DON'T YOU PEOPLE READ ANYTHING I HAVE WRITTEN? You must be the 200th person just this week to tell me about how there are prescription drugs that are "mind-altering" and help people feel good, etc. Of course I know that! And yes I know they can be "mind-altering" and that some people abuse them. But most people are taking prescription medications to treat an illness or condition they don't want to have in the first place, not to get high and have "fun"! Can't you see that??? How many times do I have to say this?? There is a WORLD of difference between someone taking an anti-depressant to treat a mental illness, and someone lighting up a joint, smoking it and getting high. That isn't the same at all and you know it! And hopefully the person taking the anti-depressant will deal with their problems and not have to continue taking that medication. But casual pot smokers see nothing wrong with using it just to get high and have fun, and they will use it indefinitely!

And then you bring up about how pot helps alleviate pain?? ARE YOU SERIOUS?? Again, have you not read a THING I have written?? I have said over and over for the past ten years online that I am NOT AGAINST MEDICAL MARIJUANA! I am a nice person and of course would not want anybody to suffer. I would use it for pain myself if it helped and it were legal for that. I have even been trying for two years to write an article on the BENEFITS of medical marijuana, how it can HELP people! But I have yet to find a single decent person to interview to use as an example in my article! All the casual users rave about the medical benefits in order to justify getting high, and even the "medical" users I've talked to and seen online have been horrible, cussing me out, threatening me with death and bodily harm, attacking my religion, my looks, my sex life, making mean videos and websites about me, making fun of me for collecting dolls, etc. And of course they all use the lame excuses that pot is safer than alcohol and cigarettes (as if THAT has anything to do with medical marijuana).

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Cindybin said...

TO ANONYMOUS, CONTINUED:

I have collected a huge folder filled with THOUSANDS of comments and emails from "medical" users, supporters and growers who are just horrible. Even the "nice" ones don't get it. They honestly can't see why it's wrong and immature to use marijuana recreationally, and they think it should be legal for that. Now, after talking to all these people, all I want to do is write blogs and make videos using the comments and emails I have collected, to show what people are like! Doctors and lawmakers need to be aware of this before they go legalizing or approving of marijuana for any reason! It is just SOOO depressing. I always thought MEDICAL users and supporters and growers would be nice, that surely they would agree that we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs to get high and stoned and have "fun". I don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say. What parent would EVER raise their kids to grow up and get high on POT? At any age??

And I have said over and over that I've talked to SO many people online who say they smoke pot for things like anxiety and depression and insomnia. I have tried to feel sorry for them and tell them it's good if it helps them. But then as I talk with them further, I find out they think nothing is wrong with recreational use. And when I try to tell them why this is wrong, they turn all psycho on me and cuss me out, threaten me, tell me they hope my husband and I die in a fiery car crash, etc. I have the emails to prove it. These people would be smoking pot just for fun even if they didn't have these problems!

And I have said over and over that I've had problems like that in the past, too--everybody goes through periods in life where they are dealing with things. But I sure never smoked POT to deal with it! That would have only made matters worse! I would have had to have been a totally different person to go out and find illegal drugs, come home, light up a joint, smoke it and get high. And getting high on POT is not the solution to something like depression or anxiety or insomnia. You KNOW that.

Now I have to add your stupid comment to my huge folder filled with all the OTHER comments and emails from "medical" users, supporters and growers who are just horrible. You just don't get it. I will be using these comments in my upcoming blogs and videos to show doctors and lawmakers and voters what you people are like.

And it makes me FURIOUS when you guys accuse me of thinking that anybody who smokes pot is a "bad person." I'M NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL! Can't you see that?? I am saying that you are all GOOD people! We are all God's children! I am trying to get people to see that they are too GOOD to be doing something like using mind-altering drugs to get high and stoned and have "fun"! Can't you understand that?? Again, what parent would ever raise their kids to grow up and do THAT?? And it is ILLEGAL in most states! If you get busted, do you think the judge will care if you are a "good person"? NOT WHERE I LIVE! You would be treated like DIRT, a common criminal! Kids need to realize this! They see all these "weed videos" online and see that pot is being legalized in some states, and that famous, successful people like Carl Sagan or President Obama smoked pot, and then they try it out of peer pressure to be bad and cool, afraid of being called a goody goody, and the next thing they know they are being shoved into a squad car and hauled off to jail. I've seen it happen to kids around here! The judge won't care if marijuana can alleviate pain. The judge won't care if our president smoked pot. All they will care about is YOU, and what you plead: guilty or not guilty. And believe me, if you plead not guilty, you won't stand a chance. You kids need to realize this!

Cindybin said...

TO ANONYMOUS, CONTINUED:

But again, EVEN IF POT WERE LEGAL, what parent would EVER raise their kids to grow up and use it to get high and stoned and have "fun"? That isn't what true fun is! And just the fact that you try to compare smoking pot to people taking anti-depressants to treat a mental illness proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever, with VERY STIFF PENALTIES. I hope all the lawmakers and voters and medical professionals read your comment! It proves my point exactly! This is why I wrote this blog in the first place, because of people like you. You all say the same things. Although every time I wrote a blog or make a comment, I HOPE that people will understand and take it to heart and realize that they shouldn't use drugs. But you guys STILL always say the same things. Every once in awhile I'll get someone who thanks me for helping them stop using marijuana, though. It has happened several times, and that makes it all worth it.

Cindybin said...

ELIZABETH,

That is GREAT that you have such a wonderful life, hobbies and career aspirations! I am glad to hear that! But that makes it WORSE that you would smoke pot! Because you of ALL people should know better! You are setting a terrible example and going against everything that most parents try to teach their kids about drugs and life. And what type of guy is a young lady going to attract if she smokes pot? Don't you want to date and marry a NICE guy? someone who will be a good father to your kids someday? Aren't you worth that? Of course you are!

So think of your future, and modify your behavior NOW, while you are still young. You are worth it!

Elizabeth said...

I should "Know better"? I know well enough that what I'm doing isn't harming me,(Yes, I know, you never said it could.) and I personally don't find it 'wrong' like you do..... so, in my eyes, there's nothing wrong with what I'm doing.

I don't feel that I'm going against what parents teach their kids.... I think that most parents would teach their kids to not do things that would harm them, not tell them they can't do things just because they can't. When you put mindless restrictions on children, THAT is what makes them sneaky in their older years. Who wants to raise kids that will grow up and deceive them?

And for the people who do raise their kids that way, that's their own business, and it should not(and will not) affect the way that I live my life.

Thank you for your concern into my relationship and family life, but I'm perfectly happy with the type of guy that I attract.

I've been in a serious relationship for just over three years now. I can confidently say that I truly love him, and I'm glad I have him. He is in fact, a very nice guy, and very decent guy. He is also the type of guy that I know would be an amazing father, should we choose to have kids one day.

Thanks again for your concern about my future, but I've thought about my future with my boyfriend quite a bit, and I'm satisfied with the thought of spending my life with him, or raising children with him. I don't see a single thing wrong with my future, and I don't plan on "Modifying" my behaviour, as it is just not necessary.





Brady said...

I am so happy I found your blog! There are so many good, informative comments! All the pots on here have CHANGED MY LIFE!

A friend recommended I try pot, but I wasn't sure as I've never done it, or heard much about it.

So a few days ago I googled it, looking for pros and cons about it... and then I found this blog.

Thanks SO much to everyone on here for showing me how it can help!

Last night, my friend brought over a bunch of weed, and we smoked it all. God, it was amazing.

Thank you Cindy!! If you hadn't of showed me that there is nothing wrong with pot, then I would have never smoked it!!! I was so worried it was going to hurt me, or make me sick, and I didn't really want to get addicted. But seeing that even people who don't like pot, know that there is nothing wrong with it, I gave it a chance. And am I ever glad I did!!

Thank you so much, you've changed my life! I really wish I'd done this sooner. You are amazing.

Anonymous said...

Ok Cindy, I want that folder!

Send it to me Via e-mail

Rebel8909s@gmail.com

Label the email Pot Smokers and attach said folder,

And I'm sorry for saying this, but screw you for saying people with depression can hopefully get over it. If you knew anything about depression it isn't something that just goes away like a light fever. Depression is awful, in my case I literally hated my self because no one would talk to me for 3 years of my life. I had no friends. I was bullied by the F***ing adults at school for having red hair. So Again screw you for saying people can just get over depression.

Cindybin said...

Anonymous, first of all, there is no way I can send you that folder full of all the emails and comments from "medical" users, supporters and growers. It is HUGE!

And secondly, I DO know about depression! I have said over and over that I've experienced things like that in my life in the past--most people go through episodes or things where they are working things out. You don't know about me. I don't say too much about my personal life. So don't assume that I don't know anything. And yes I KNOW that you don't just "get over depression" like a light fever! BOY do I know that! It can take YEARS, a lifetime, even! I'm in my 50's and I'm still dealing with things from my childhood, over 50 years ago! Yes I KNOW that you can't just "get over" a depression! But that doesn't make it right to light up a joint, smoke it and get high! Can't you see that?? Getting high on pot is not going to help anything! I can't IMAGINE smoking pot to deal with problems! That would only make matters WORSE! And did you people ever stop to think that maybe if you were the type that knew why it is wrong and just plain immature to get high on drugs, you wouldn't have these problems in the first place? Or you would at least be better able to deal with them! Grow up already. It is NOT RIGHT to light up a joint, smoke it and get high and stoned. What a thing to do!

Cindybin said...

Elizabeth, Grow up.

Elizabeth said...

Why do I need to grow up?

I consider myself quite responsible and mature for my age.

I wasn't rude to you, or behaving as in a way that suggested I'm immature, did I? I'm simply having a discussing of our personal views.

If politely stating my opinions means I need to 'grow up' then I guess you and I both have some growing to do, don't we? :)

Jess said...

You said it's wrong to smoke weed.

But you've never said WHY it's so wrong. You think people are going to change their mind, just because someone says it's wrong?

Add some substance and tell us what it is that makes it wrong. Explain it, please.

Anonymous said...

Ok now your making me mad Cindy, saying that people who use drugs to help their depression just makes things worse.

I've dealt with my depression it took me two years of counseling and support from my friends. Now one of my friends is dealing with it, and to top it off he has terrible anxiety attacks, so "lighting up" is something that helps him. He's used medicines that take anywhere from half an hour to and hour to kick in and help him.

Using Marijuana has helped my friends, and for that I see nothing wrong with it. My friend is a great person, he's now been my friend for nearly 7 years and he will on occasion "light up" because it makes him feel better. So screw you. Honestly.
" Getting high on pot is not going to help anything!"
"if you were the type that knew why it is wrong and just plain immature to get high on drugs, you wouldn't have these problems in the first place? Or you would at least be better able to deal with them! Grow up already."

If you say things like this then you obviously don't know what f***ing depression is. I don't care if your still dealing with things in your late 50's. If you think that using a drug that is proven to help depression will make a situation worse and to just get over it and grow up. Screw you.

Cindybin said...

ANONYMOUS: HAVE YOU NOT READ A THING I'VE WRITTEN??? Oh you people are just HORRIBLE! Again, you prove my point about why we all need to speak up against marijuana and why it should be illegal forever, with VERY STIFF PENALTIES! Even after ALL I SAID, you still can't understand that what I'm talking about is that getting high on POT is not going to help a person's depression in the long-run! For Pete's sake, can't you see that?? There is nothing wrong with taking medications such as anti-depressants to help deal with depression, because obviously the person isn't doing it to get high and stoned and have "fun" like a pot smoker would. And of course it can take alot of work and counseling and soul-searching to deal with a depression, and it can take a long time to get over this. But a person smoking pot is doing this to get HIGH, even if they have depression. That is NOT GOOD! They are getting high or stoned on a mind-altering drug! That is totally different from someone taking an anti-depressant! I know the difference between these two substances!

And again, if you were the type to understand why it's immoral and just plain immature to get high on pot, you would be better able to deal with your problems, or you wouldn't have these problems in the first place! You would be grown up and mature and have more common sense!

And where do you even FIND marijuana to get high with?? Just the fact that a person would go out and break the law and buy illegal drugs to deal with their depression is a red flag!!

Again, people need to grow up and set an example and not use mind-altering drugs to relax, unwind, have "fun", get high, stoned, buzzed, celebrate, socialize, etc. What a thing to do!

Cindybin said...

Jess, Have you not read a thing I have written over the years?? You must be the 200th Internet person just this week to accuse me of not saying WHY it is wrong to use mind-altering drugs to get high and have "fun". I have said this a million times! That is not what TRUE fun is! Can't you understand that? You didn't smoke pot or drink alcohol when you were a sweet, innocent little girl, did you? Of course not! You had fun just playing, reading, celebrating holidays and birthdays with your family, riding your bike, looking at the clouds and butterflies, etc. You weren't even THINKING of using mind-altering drugs. And you knew it was the "bad" kids who did things like that. You weren't a bad kid, you were a GOOD kid! So what happened to you? Go back and find that sweet little girl and give her a hug.

Cindybin said...

Elizabeth, your attitude is one that indicates you need to grow up. You know that a grown adult should be WELL PAST the age where they'd want to use a mind-altering drug to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax and unwind, have "fun", enjoy life, etc. What a thing to do.

Are you the person who sent me a comment a year or so ago telling me you are bi-polar and had been raped? Are you the same person or a different person altogether?

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Anonymous said...

Honestly Cindy screw you, pot has helped my friend deal with his depression and guess what anti depressants are mind altering drugs, just like pot.

If you have read anything I've written you would realize this. Using pot to have fun isn't immature, doll collectin is immature I can understand like one or two dolls from you child hood but not your disgusting collection. You want to talk to me about immature?! Bring it on Cindy I can point the immaturity of you posting this on your blog to counter you!

Don't tell me using pot makes matters worse when your depressed. It has for a fact helped my friend deal with his depression better than anti depressants! You are an awfully ignorant person Cindy!

Elizabeth said...

How does my attitude tell you I need to grow up? I'm just discussing and sharing my opinions - the same thing you're doing. There's nothing wrong with expressing my opinion - especially when I'm doing so in a polite matter.

If I was commenting things like "What? This blog sucks, you're stupid! Weeds great! Yeeeaah! 420! BLAZE IT!!" ... then, yeah, it'd be very immature. But I'm not saying things like that.

Just because I disagree with your views on marijuana doesn't make me immature. Morals are a subjective thing. To me, it's NOT wrong to smoke pot.

And no... that definitely wasn't me who made that comment.

Jess said...

That's your reason? That it's not to true fun?

Fun is defined as anything that gives a person pleasure, or that the person in questions finds enjoyable. So, it's 100% real fun. If someone is enjoying themselves using cannabis, then it is most definitely true fun. (I think someone already told you that on this thread...)

And...............playing? Reading, celebrating with my family? Biking, clouds and butterflies? HA! Give me a break. How can you say that? You dont know me... all you know of me is one comment on your blog. My childhood was NOTHING like that.

Passed the age of 6 was not a good child, and I didn't have a happy little life full of fun games, sunshine and rainbows.

Now that I'm older, I have a better life than I did, and I don't do the things I used to. I've mellowed out, and matured, and got my life together. But don't start telling me all about the sweet little girl I was. Where do you get the right to assume that?

Besides, who ever said I smoked pot anyways?

Cindybin said...

Thanks everyone! Just keep posting!

Jess said...

So.... I guess you're not going to give us a real reason, then?

Cindybin said...

Jess, you people are driving me crazy!!! Why can't you see that having "fun" with drugs is not what TRUE fun is! Just because you didn't have a magical, happy childhood doesn't mean you can't understand something like that! My childhood wasn't perfect, either, but I sure never thought about using DRUGS! It was the "bad kids" who did things like that! My parents raised me to know better than to smoke pot! I never even had any desire to use marijuana. Nobody ever offered it to me or anything! And I was a teen in the 70s! Same for my husband!

And I have explained many times that I did experiment with alcohol a bit in my immature college days, to be bad and cool and loosen up at a party. Yes it was "fun", but I soon learned that that is not what TRUE fun is! If you are a grown adult now and all mature, then you of ALL people should understand that, and you should support and commend me for speaking up against drugs! Again, I don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say! What parent would EVER raise their kids to grow up and get high on POT? At any age? And I know many of these same parents who would never smoke pot because "drugs are bad" think nothing of using a mind-altering drug in the form of alcohol. But alcohol is a drug! Just because it's legal doesn't make it right!

I remember the first time I heard that alcohol is a drug. I was shocked. My parents used alcohol, and they weren't drug users! But they WERE! They really were no different than a casual pot smoker. They used alcohol regularly up through their old age. They never really did learn that this is not what TRUE fun or happiness is. I know that they party used it to "drown their sorrows" or escape from reality. There was also the social aspect, where they drank to fit in because everyone else was doing it at the parties and functions they attended.

But it shouldn't be this way! People need to THINK, to have a mind of their own, to realize that they do NOT have to use alcohol or any other mind-altering drug to fit in, be cool, have "fun", etc. That is NOT what true fun or happiness is.

Elizabeth said...

Can I assume from your lack of a reply, that you've come to the realization that you don't have sufficient explanation as to why I'm immature?

Cindybin said...

Elizabeth, your comments are all one needs to realize why we should speak up against marijuana and why it should be illegal forever.

Now COME ON. You KNOW why it's wrong and just plain immature to use mind-altering drugs to get high, stoned, buzzed, etc. I'm being easy on you since you are only 18. I HOPE you will grow up soon and see the light.

Elizabeth said...

How would my comments make someone realize pot should be illegal?

If a person, who had never heard of marijuana, until reading this blog, then my comments (Along with most of the others) would illustrate to them all the benefits of marijuana, while you've provided next to nothing to show why it should be illegal, and said NOTHING as to why it is "Wrong and immature" as you claim.

No, I DON'T know why "it's wrong and just plain immature". As I've already explained to you, what is wrong and what is right is subjective topic. One's morals are based on the way the live their life, and their own personal beliefs. Just because you think that it is wrong and immature, doesn't mean it IS wrong or immature.

I think that that using marijuana ISN'T wrong, or immature in the slightest.




Jess said...

For the second time; it IS true fun. Fun is when someone is enjoying themselves, or expierincing pleasure. So yes, for some people, smoking pot is fun. 100% TRUE fun.

I understand you've never had a desire to smoke pot, been offered it, or ever seen it, and you were a teen in the 70s, yes, yes, yes, we know. You've said that exact thing several times in this post alone.

That's how you live your life, and how you grew up and that is perfectly fine.

WHY don't you smoke pot? Because your beliefs, your values, and your morals tell you that it is wrong. That's fine. You feel that it's wrong to do, so don't do it.

But some people (As I see Elizabeth was just explaining to you) feel that it isn't wrong at all, so what is the problem with them smoking it? It's not affecting YOU in any way.

Maybe if pot WAS dangerous, and could kill you, or harm you, then it would make more sense to try and stop people from doing it. But the only reason you don't like pot use is the fact you think it's wrong. (The key word in that sentence is YOU.)

YOU think it's wrong, so you don't smoke it. But why should someone who sees no problem with it refrain from smoking?

As the previous comment explained, values and morals are a personal thing, specific to one's own opinions and beliefs.

It's fine if you think it's wrong, whatever, that's your opinion, and you're completely entitled to have one. You believe it's wrong, so you'll never smoke it.

But if someone sees nothing wrong with it, why should they not smoke?



Cindybin said...

Jess, GROW UP. You people make me sick. I mean it. Here I type my fingers to the bone, trying to HELP you, and you reject it. Is this how you are going to raise your kids someday??? Good luck with THAT. And what type of man is ever going to want to date or marry a woman with an attitude like yours?? Don't you want to marry a NICE guy? Someone who will be a good father to your children someday? Aren't you worth that?? Do you really think that a nice, decent guy is going to want to date or marry a POT SMOKER??

And I think you and Elizabeth are the same person.

Again, just grow up already. You set a terrible example and go against everything that most parents try to teach their kids about drugs and life!

Jess said...

A few things.

One, that's great. Thank you for attempting to help, it's honestly great that you care, but we don't need help. That's what we're trying to politley tell you. We're merely trying to prevent you from wasting your own time.

Secondly, I never plan on having children, not in this world anyways. So I don't have to worry.

Next, no I DON'T want to marry a "nice guy" or ANY guy for that matter. Plus, I'm already engaged. (And just for the record..... I have several pot-smoking female friends who are happily married.)

...... and just to clarify ... I'm not even a pot smoker! Lol

Anonymous said...

Cindy you need to grow up, I'd gladly date someone like Jess, at least she knows what the heck she's talking about.

Jess has also been nothing but polite to you, not pointing out flaws about you, but saying things like that it's okay that you believe what you believe. And you retort with "Jess, GROW UP!" "People like you make me sick!"

Wow Cindy, really, someone being respectful and pointing out that people disagree with you makes you sick. I'm thinking your the one who needs to grow up Cindy.

Cindybin said...

Wow, you guys just continue to prove my point about why we should all speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever! I hope all the lawmakers and medical professionals and voters read your comments!

And Jess, if you don't smoke pot, then WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, saying all this stuff to me???? And who is your fiance?? Tell him to email me. And who are your pot smoking friends? Tell them to email me! Where do they even FIND marijuana?? It is AGAINST THE LAW! Who are they that they're above the law? They should be ashamed of themselves!

Anonymous said...

Cindy you make me laugh, telling people to tell others to e-mail you! Who are you to interfere with other's social lives?

Last I checked you were just a "sweet" old lady. So you don't have any right what so ever to try and command people to e-mail you!
Congrats on the Engagement Jess! :D

Now Cindy, her friends also have to reason to be ashamed of themselves. For all you know they could be living in a state that has legalized Marijuana, like the rest of the US should. Not only would it save the US billions of dollars but it would also cut down on people going to prison, possibly, having bodily harm done to them, over a silly drug that makes you feel good.

One final thing Cindy, it's easy to find marijuana. You can find it literally every where if you know who to ask. Most of the time too you'll see the people who sell it are generally nice people. Now I don't suggest going somewhere your not comfortable but I know like 3 people here in my town that can legally grow and sell their marijuana to our Pharmacies. In fact if they have surplus they give it away!

Cindybin said...

Anonymous: AARGGHHH, have you not read a thing I've written over the years? I have said over and over how furious it makes us all when you people blame the LAW for the drug war, rather than the pot smokers! My whole point is that there wouldn't BE any "drug war" or "drug laws" if people would just shape up and NOT SMOKE POT! How hard is it to not smoke pot?? Where would one even FIND this stuff? It is ILLEGAL (in most states). Nobody has ever offered me pot or talked about it to me or anything! And I was a teen in the 70s! Same for my husband! And we sure don't know anybody NOW who smokes pot, approves of it or knows where to find it! Even if it were legal it doesn't make it right! And if you get busted where I live, it won't help to tell the judge that pot is legal elsewhere. The judge would laugh in your face and throw you in jail for making excuses for breaking the law! Kids need to remember that!

And I have said over and over that nobody would have to worry about going to prison if they just obeyed the law and didn't smoke pot! And there shouldn't even BE any laws against pot! People should have the morals and values and maturity to know not to smoke pot in the first place! What a thing to do! I never even THOUGHT about smoking pot when I was growing up! I had a mind of my own! And again, if you people would just obey the law and NOT SMOKE POT, and have morals and values and MATURITY and common sense to not even have any DESIRE to do something like get high on drugs, you would NOT have to worry about being thrown into prison. What a stupid thing to say, saying that we should should change the law because everybody breaks it. OH BROTHER. You people take the cake. I mean it. You must be the 200th person just this week to say all this stuff to me, about how legalizing marijuana will cut down on people going to prison and save billions of dollars and help the economy, etc. OH BROTHER. That proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever. It is not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it! LIKE YOU! LOOK at you! Instead of being a nice, decent, mature guy and commending and supporting me for saying we shouldn't use drugs to get high (just like any other normal, decent person, and especially PARENTS, would say), you come here and say all this stupid stuff I've heard a billion times online the past ten years. You just don't get it. It is comments like yours that prove my point. As I've said, I never even used to THINK about pot before all this. I never cared if it was legal or not. I never smoked it, I've never seen it, it didn't concern me. But BOY have you guys opened my eyes! Now I realize that it should be illegal forever, with VERY STIFF PENALTIES!

(continued)

Cindybin said...

Part Two (To Anonymous continued)

And then you ADMIT that it makes you feel good? You ADMIT this?? Can't you see that that is what makes it wrong and that that is why people are against it??? How old are you? Where are your parents? Do they know you are like this?? Is this how you are going to raise your kids someday? I SHOULD HOPE NOT!

And then you bring up about how marijuana salesmen are "generally nice people." OH BROTHER. LISTEN to yourself! Again, you must be the 200th Internet person to tell me that just this week! If these people are so nice, then WHAT ARE THEY DOING BEING DRUG PUSHERS??? Most parents would be APPALLED if their child grew up to sell drugs! And if they get busted, do you think a judge will care how "nice" you are?? NOT WHERE I LIVE! You'd be a number in the court room and treated like DIRT!

And you people always talk about how easy it is to find "weed". I don't know ANYBODY who smokes pot, approves of it or knows where to find it! If you know people who smoke pot, then GET NEW FRIENDS! Most parents teach their kids to AVOID the others kids who use drugs! They don't want their own child to be under a bad influence and risk getting in trouble with the law! Didn't YOUR parents teach you this??? Are you going to let your kids hang out with drug users??? I should hope not!

Oh you people take the cake. I mean it. I type my fingers to the bone for YEARS, writing thousands of comments, tons of blogs, even a BOOK explaining everything SO CLEARLY, thinking I've made a difference in the world, thinking you all understand, and then you all STILL say the same RIDICULOUS things over and over and over. It is just MADDENING!

Thanks for yet another comment proving my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever, with VERY STIFF PENALTIES.

And it's YOU'RE, not your! Don't they teach you this in school???

Anonymous said...

I apologize Cindy for my grammatical error.

But don't tell me to get new friends, I don't personally use marijuana. But I have friends who do and they are good people. Straight A students, great athletes and as for me I'm just a computer junkie.

I'm 14 and my parents agree that the war on drugs is a pointless and money wasting "war" and don't bother asking me to have them e-mail you, they are busy people who have jobs and don't want to bothered with some lady on the internet.

Anyways Cindy, pot doesn't make you immoral or immature. The people who use pot around me are some of the greatest people you'll ever meet. They don't use it every day, heck they use it sparingly like a brownie or a candy bar. They are intelligent and talented people. And you have no right to go around saying that they are bad people because they use a drug that makes them feel good.

And don't bother with the whole "Oh you must be the 200th person" crap. You've been spewing the same junk for ten years and you expect us to change?

Cindybin said...

AAARGGHHH, YOU STILL DON'T GET IT! First of all, I suppose you are that "Gabe" person, right? The 14-year-old KID who I told to not bother even commenting because I wouldn't read or publish anything he said? You are now posing as an anonymous person. It figures. Oh you people are just HORRIBLE. You always tell me that it's okay if you only smoke pot once in a while, and not every day, as if that makes it okay. Haven't you read a thing I've written? I have said over and over that I'd have more sympathy for a strung out junkie or raging alcoholic than a casual pot smoker or casual booze drinker! At least the junkie has an excuse; they are addicted and hopefully will get help and realize they should never have used drugs in the first place. But casual pot smokers, just like casual booze drinkers, have no excuse. They can't even see why it's wrong and just plain immature to use mind-altering drugs to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax and unwind, have "fun", enjoy life, etc. How sad is that?

And if your wonderful little friends get busted, do you think a judge will care that they only use marijuana sometimes or that they get good grades or have a wonderful personality????? NOT WHERE I LIVE! They'd be a number in the court room and treated like DIRT! Don't you understand that?? What is WRONG with you??? It doesn't matter that they only use it sometimes and not every day or that they get good grades and are wonderful people. In fact it makes it WORSE that they would smoke pot! If they are all so dang smart and wonderful, then they of ALL people should know better! They set a terrible example and go against everything that most parents try to teach their kids about drugs and life! They should be ashamed of themselves! And who are they that they are above the law, keeping the whole illegal drug trade in business?? Don't they read the news?? As I have said a BILLION TIMES, think of the poor woman in prison for smuggling pot over the border, planted in her car by the cartels. Her life is ruined, she can no longer raise her son, all because of immature, immoral people like your friends who just want to get high and have "fun." If they were my kids I would ground them for life. Tell them all to email me, I'd love to give them a piece of my mind.

And it makes me FURIOUS that you guys always think that if only I knew how smart and nice pot smokers are, that I'd suddenly realize it's okay. Why do you jerks ALWAYS think that we are against pot because we think that it makes you stupid or violent, etc. NOBODY THINKS THAT! For the BILLIONTH TIME, doesn't it even occur to you lamebrains that we are against it because it's a MIND-ALTERING DRUG??? And don't you DARE tell me about how chocolate is mind-altering and sugar is mind-altering and how fast food is unhealthy, blah blah blah. I HAVE ADDRESSED ALL THIS A BILLION TIMES!

Oh you people are just HORRIBLE. If you were my son I'd ground you for life. Your parents have done a HORRIBLE job of raising you if you really are who you say you are!!! I would love to talk to them! I'd love to sit down with you and slap some sense into you.

Again, you guys just continue to prove my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever, with VERY STIFF PENALTIES! I hope all the lawmakers and voters and medical professionals in the world read all your stupid, stupid comments. Again, WHERE ARE ALL THE NICE PEOPLE?? Why doesn't anybody back me up here?? I don't know ANYBODY in real life who smokes pot, approves of it or knows where to find it, and everybody I know would read the stupid comments you guys make and laugh and roll their eyes! But WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY POST ON THESE BOARDS?? Why do I always attract you JERKS????

Anonymous said...

Oh wow Cindy, so now your threatening me? And I'm the one who needs to grow up.

Listen Cindy, I'm not Gabe the Ginger Lord, I'm an anon, the reason I'm an anon is because I don't want you to know my name.

Anyways back to the point. Lamebrains really Cindy? Now your the one degrading us. Half the people on here have been nothing but polite to you, and you respond by calling us immature, lamebrains and you ignoring someone who's the only one who's kept up a steady argument with you.

You Cindy are the reason Marijuana should be legal. Not only do you make everyone else's points that much more valid you act as if you are the supreme ruler of the universe and that you can dictate what people do with their lives. You call my parent's terrible at raising me, I have a brother raised by the same parents who drinks on occasion because he enjoys it. Who are to tell him any different, he's graduating college this year and is trying to get lined up to join a cruise liner as part of a music group. One of my friends has also been imprisoned but the judges don't treat her like dirt, they treat her as a citizen of the state and treat her with respect. She isn't violent, she is polite, smart and a fun person. But if we just legalize marijuana she wouldn't have to be in a cell for the next 90 days.

Oh well Cindy, I'm going to get on with my life and leave you to your immature self wallowing. Have fun Cindy!

And Gabe sorry this old lady is ignoring you, you've had some of the best arguments out of most of the people who've been commenting.

Cindybin said...

Lol, very good Gabe "Anonymous". You have proven my point exactly!

Anonymous said...

I'm not Gabe, Cindy.

I'm an anon, It seems to me Cindy that you're fixated with Gabe the Ginger Lord. Why would someone go through so much trouble just to get their comments approved Cindy? Answer me that! And how in the heck did I in any way prove your point exactly?

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