Sunday, July 14, 2013

Pot Question of the Week: Smoking Weed and Watching TV, What’s the Difference?

A reader asks: “What's the difference between someone watching TV for 3 hours and someone getting high on weed for a couple hours?”

This was an actual email I received today. (I can use it without editing, because, believe it or not, it contains no profanity!) But I can’t tell you how many times a week I get asked this question or something similar. Pot smokers are always trying to compare activities such as watching TV, going to an amusement park, eating, dreaming, sex, reading and anything else to using drugs.

Well let me tell you the obvious, Mr. Internet Person. Getting high on “weed” involves purposely ingesting a mind-altering drug into your system. It is also illegal and you can get into serious trouble with the law, at least where I live. Is that really so hard to understand? (And people actually want marijuana legalized so people like this can use it?)

I get so many emails regarding marijuana (especially over at YouTube), I really need to do a weekly feature about them—something like “Pot Question of the Week” or “Ridiculous Pot Email of the Week”, etc. I really want to address the ones I get from MEDICAL users. Those are unbelievable.

It’s hard to find the time, though! I literally have thousands of emails on my YouTube account that I haven’t even opened. I skim through the list, and you know that anyone with a user name like HerbToker69, HighAllDayGuy, FreetheWeed, Smokey McBongwater, StonerDude420, or ANYTHING with a “420” in it is a pot smoker. And I have so many blogs and videos I want to do on other subjects, not to mention auctions to list, doll videos to watch, etc. Sigh. Maybe one day I’ll get my act together. And maybe I’ll even do a blog just on “Ridiculous Pot Screen Names”, haha…

33 comments:

Jeff Molchan said...

You suck!

Anonymous said...

You suck, just quit. Nobody cares about your religion or your work.

Anonymous said...

Honey, the doll thing is creepy.

69godslayer69 said...

You realy should do some research on medicinal marijuana before you make such ignorant statements.

Cindybin said...

Dear 69godslayer69, AARGGHHH! Have you not read a thing I've written?? I have said over and over a billion times that I am NOT AGAINST MEDICAL MARIJUANA! That is a totally different issue! I am a nice person and of course would not want anybody to suffer! If marijuana helps someone with pain, nausea, etc., then that is a good thing! I have even been trying for two years to write an article on the BENEFITS of medical marijuana! But I have yet to find a single decent person to interview to use as an example for my article! All the casual users rave about the medical benefits in order to justify getting high, and even the "medical" users I've talked to and seen online have been horrible, cussing me out, threatening me with death and bodily harm, attacking my religion, my looks, my sex life, making mean videos about me, making fun of me for collecting dolls, using lame excuses about how pot is safer than alcohol and cigarettes (as if that has anything to do with medical marijuana), telling me I need to educate myself, calling me ignorant and close-minded, etc. JUST BECAUSE I SAY WE SHOULDN'T USE MIND-ALTERING DRUGS RECREATIONALLY! I have collected a huge folder filled with THOUSANDS of comments and emails from "medical" users, supporters and growers who are just horrible. Now all I want to do is write articles and make videos using these comments, to show what people are like! Doctors and lawmakers need to be aware of this before they go legalizing or approving of marijuana for any reason. It's just so depressing. I always thought MEDICAL users would be nice, that surely they would support my stance against recreational use. I don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say! And here I am trying to HELP the medical users, and they are making it impossible! I already know about the medical benefits. One can find that information anywhere. I'm just trying to find some medical users to interview for my story, to use as examples of real-life situations and how they have been helped by using this. I will talk to a "medical" user and they'll be all nice and cooperative and gladly tell me why they use marijuana and how it helps them, and wish me luck on my article, etc. And then I ask them how they feel about recreational use and they tell me nothing is wrong with it, and when I try to tell them why this is wrong, they turn all psycho on me and cuss me out, threaten me, attack my religion, make mean videos about me, accuse me of being a "brainwashed religious nut", use stupid excuses about how God put all seed-bearing plants on the Earth for us to enjoy, make fun of me for collecting dolls, come to my doll channel and type all kinds of cuss words and obscenities and threats, etc. Even the "nice" ones don't get it. They honestly can't see why we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs recreationally. How can I possibly support these people when they are like that?? Again, I already know about the medical benefits! I am not opposed to that! If something like marijuana helps someone with a medical condition, then that is a good thing! But now, after all the people I have talked to and seen online who claim to be medical users, supporters and growers, all I want to do is use my writing and reporting skills to write articles to show what these people are like! Doctors and lawmakers and voters need to be aware of this! So do YOU use marijuana for medical reasons? Or do you just want to get high? That's what I thought. You're just like all the rest. I'll add your stupid comment to my huge folder with all the other THOUSANDS of comments from "medical" users, supporters and growers so I can use these comments in my upcoming blogs and videos to show what you guys are like!

69godslayer69 said...

Wow that was an extremely long response. First of all, I have read alot of your anti swearing comments on youtube but this is the first of your anti marijuana writings that I have read. It appears I misinterpreted your stance on medicinal marijuana. I assumed since you said that medicinal users comments were unbelievable, that the comments you were referring to were comments advocating medicinal use. Had you included anything which stated your pro view on medicinal use in this article, I would not have commented as I did, wrongfully calling you ignorant about medicinal marijuana.
Assumptions were made by you about me as well. I am neither a recreational user or medicinal user. I did smoke alot of weed in my teen years and twenties. But I am now 39 and no longer smoke it. I do, however, support the legalization of marijuana for both medicinal and recreational use. You are obviously already aware of marijuanas medicinal benefits so I'll focus on the recreational use.
Marijuana affects different people in different ways. I quit smoking it about 10 years ago because it was no longer fun or enlightening for me. It started making me paranoid, depressed,anti social and filled me with anxiety. It took me about 15 years to experience those kind of negative effects, up till then it had been quite enjoyable, peaceful, relaxing, mind opening, and positive. For many, however, getting stoned is always positive. Its just no longer something I want to do, so I don't. But I would never try to stop someone from doing something that brings them joy and harms no one. Liberty is being free to pursuit happiness as long as you dont infringe on the rights of others to pursuit it. Alot of people calim to support and love liberty, while very few actually live it.
Most drugs are processed and made available legally or illegally, depending on various different factors, in which concern for consumer safety is rarely a contributing factor. Marijuana grows naturally, it is not processed, it has never killed anyone, the high is very mild and is alot safer than alot of legal drugs and pharmacudicles. Just take a look at the statistics for alcohol related deaths, health problems, and the many other negative attributes of alcohol and compare to marijuana. Alcohol is by far more dangerous and harmful than marijuana, yet it remains legal while marijuana remains illegal in most states. That is insane. Having alcohol legal while having marijuana illegal is as nonsensical as it would be if we outlawed knives while allowing guns.
Anyways, I am very interested in hearing your reasons for being against its recreational use.

Cindybin said...

AARGGHHH! you must be a troll, only saying this to make me mad. I have said a billion times that we shouldn't smoke pot OR drink alcohol! How hard is that? A grown adult should be well past the age where they'd want to use a mind-altering drug to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax and unwind, have "fun", enjoy life, etc. What a thing to do! And if you don't even smoke "weed", then you of ALL people should agree with me! What parent would ever raise their kids to grow up and smoke POT? At any age?? Most parents try to raise their kids with morals, values and common sense to know not to use mind-altering drugs. And I know many of these same parents who would NEVER smoke pot because "drugs are bad", think nothing of using a mind-altering drug in the form of alcohol. But alcohol is a drug! Just because it's legal doesn't make it right! A casual booze drinker is no better than a casual pot smoker, except they aren't breaking the law. And you guys all talk about legalizing pot. Legalize it for who? ADULTS?? Adults are the ones who should know better and NOT SMOKE POT! And have you SEEN the comments by pot smokers online? Have you SEEN the videos they make? Heck, you should read the emails they send me! It's enough to make anyone realize that pot should be illegal forever, with very stiff penalties! Not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it! Like you! You don't even smoke pot, yet you write all this ridiculous stuff to me. I hope all the lawmakers in the world read your comment. Again, I don't have to write any anti-pot blogs. You guys are all doing it for me.

Cindybin said...

Later: So of course even after all I said in the above replies to that "godslayer" person, he still doesn't get it. He sent me a long response (which I'm not printing, I don't even want to deal with it) and he can't even see my points at all. It figures. And people wonder why I speak up against marijuana and why I say it should be illegal forever. Again, it is not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it! All I'm saying is that we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs! All I'm saying is that we need to speak up against drug use and help all these online pot smokers see that there is a better way to live! How can anybody disagree with me for that?? I don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say! Geez Louise.

Cindybin said...

So this guy sends me even MORE ridiculous comments, calling me a coward, saying that I didn't post his comments because I know he's right, blah blah blah. Yeah, THAT'S the reason I didn't post his comments, because I know he's right. Yeah, sure. And why do pot smokers always think that I think it is the POT that makes people like this? That's not my point at all! And pot smokers all think that I think that anybody who smokes pot wants their child to grow up to be a "pothead." Sheesh. Again, all this proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever. It is not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it! Instead of being a nice, decent, mature guy and commending and supporting me for speaking up against drugs, he puts me down for doing this, focuses on the LAW rather than the pot smokers themselves, and calls me a "coward", etc. I really should publish his comments just so that lawmakers and voters can see what people are like.

69godslayer69 said...

Yes you should publish them you coward. And like I said, Im not a pot smoker. My comments werent ridiculous. You just have no tolerance for people with opposing views and you're incapable of having a civil discussion.

Cindybin said...

Now see? this is why I continue to speak up against marijuana. You don't even smoke pot and yet you would put me down for saying we shouldn't use drugs? What kind of example are you setting? I don't say anything that any other parent wouldn't say! All I'm saying is that we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs, and that you can get into serious trouble with the law if you get busted. HOW CAN YOU PUT ME DOWN FOR THAT?? If you don't even smoke pot, then you of all people should be commending and supporting me for speaking up against drugs and trying to make a difference in the world! As I have said, I never even used to THINK about pot before all this! But boy have you guys opened my eyes!

And you say I have no tolerance for people with opposing views. Oh brother. Well you tell that to the kid who gets caught with drugs. Try telling that to the judge. We'll see what the judge would say.

69godslayer69 said...

Wow! My last comment contained no disrespect, no profanity, no insults, no threats, and no name calling. I even acknowledged that I had been wrong in my prior comment when I claimed that you were ignorant about medicinal marijuana. I shared with you my stance on legalization. I then gave you a brief description of my marijuana use history. Followed by why I quit smoking it. I gave a couple reasons why i was pro legalization for recreational use, compared it to the legal drug of alcohol and listed a couple facts about marijuana. I then explained that liberty meant alot to me. I conclude by telling you that I'm interested in hearing your argument against the recreational use of marijuana. Yet for some reason you respond by insulting me, calling me names, accusing me of only trying to make you angry, and saying my comment was ridiculous.  I've reread my comment 5 or 6 times but can not find a single example of anything I said that would make you angry or that would justify an accusation of me trying to make you angry.  Unless the mere fact that I have a differing opinion than yours makes you angry. If that's the case, I assure you I was unaware of your hostility towards people who don't agree with or think like you do. It was not my intent to use your intolerance of  people who disagree with you to make you angry. I was honestly trying to have a civil discussion with you, but apparently you're incapable of that. Or maybe so many people have disrespected, insulted, and hated on you that you just assume that everyone is trying to be like that to you, which has caused you to respond so defensively and accusatorial without really hearing anything people say. Please reread my last comment and explain to me why you think it is ridiculous. Please tell me what I said that made you angry. And what I said to make you think I'm a troll. All I can see in my comment is an honest attempt to share my opinion. Oh and I told you that I have not read any other writings of yours pertaining to marijuana, so of course I'm going to be unaware that you know that alcohol is not safer than marijuana. I believe that you have said a billion times that people who drink are no better than people who smoke pot. That alcohol is also a mind altering drug. I believe that you have said a billion positive things about medicinal marijuana. But how was I supposed to know that, if this has been my first time reading anything you've written about marijuana?

69godslayer69 said...

Anyways...Just because I choose not to smoke it doesn't mean that I expect every one else not to smoke it. How other adults choose to spend their time is really none of my business as long as they arent hurting others or restricting other peoples freedom. What I understand from your comments on this thread is that your reasons for being against legalization for recreational use is as follows...Adults should know better than to smoke weed to get high and relax. You also seem to imply that all adults who smoke pot want their kids to grow up being pot heads. And some pot smokers have sent you nasty, angry, disrespectful, ridiculous messages. And because of the actions of these individuals (not because of marijuana itself) it should remain illegal with penalties much worse than the penalties which already exist. I disagree with your opinion. That doesn't make me a troll, or ridiculous, nor does it imply that I'm trying to make you angry. Here are my opinions regarding your opinions...There are non pot smokers who send ridiculous, disrespectful, angry, threatening messages messages also. It isn't just the pot smokers. Marijuana isn't to blame for the disrespectful ways in which those individuals act. They would act the same way even if they weren't pot smokers. There are many respectful responsible hard working adults with  with important careers that contribute to society that choose to relax by smoking pot when they are not working. I know many kind descant adults, doctors, lawyers, social workers, and business owners who smoke marijuana occasionally during their free time and when their kids are not present. I understand that you think that adults should know better than to get high and that you believe getting high is immoral. But I don't understand why you believe it is immoral. Could you explain to me why? Anyways please respond to me with the respect and civility in which I responded to you without calling me names and insulting me. The way you responded to me in your last message reminded me a lot of the messages that you complain about receiving. I have a different opinion than you do, and all I've done is explain my view without any anger or hostility. Please try to do the same. Peace

Cindybin said...

Okay, so the above two posts are the ridiculous comments you made that I didn't publish at first. I will publish them now to show how ridiculous people are and why pot should be illegal forever. The reason I called you a troll is because you are saying the exact same things that I have heard a million times online, ever since I first said we shouldn't smoke pot, and all the "trolls" know how mad this makes me, so I'm assuming you are a troll. For example, you tell me about the decent, hardworking people with good jobs and families who "choose to relax by smoking pot." The mean, bully trolls KNOW this sets me off, they KNOW this makes me furious. I have said a billion times how furious it makes us all when you guys tell us about the nice, decent, successful adults who smoke pot, as if that makes it okay. That makes it WORSE! Because they of ALL people should know better! They set a terrible example and go against everything that most parents try to teach their kids about drugs and life! Can't you see that? What are parents supposed to tell their kids? "Okay Susie, you can go out and get high all you want, because our doctor and our lawyer and nice Mr. Green down the street all smoke pot, and that makes it okay! And who cares if you get busted? Just tell the judge what I told you, and you'll be sure to be set free!" IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY! Those doctors and lawyers and nice Mr. Green should know more than ANYBODY to not smoke pot! And you guys all think that I think that the POT makes people send me mean messages, etc. I don't think that at all! I know it is the PERSON! And that is why I'm against pot and realize that it should be illegal forever! Not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it!

Cindybin said...

And I have explained over and over about how the only people in real life that I ever knew who smoked pot were my college roommate and her friends, who were all nice, decent, studious, polite, church-going young ladies, and my brother-in-law, who was a straight A Eagle Scout! I was shocked when I found out these people smoked pot in college. My roommate and her friends never offered it to me or anything! I had made friends with her the year before and asked her to be my roommate my senior year, because I thought she was NOT the type who used drugs! I found out by accident that she and her friends smoked pot. And my brother-in-law admitted to us that he was a "pothead" in college. His parents would have CROAKED if they had found out. They raised him to know better than that! And all these kids were lucky they didn't get caught! Their lives could have been ruined! They all STOPPED after college and went on to get good jobs, get married, raise kids, etc. My brother-in-law is a pillar of the community, former Scoutmaster, a grandfather. Yet he was a "pothead" in college, and he was a straight A Eagle Scout! So yes, I KNOW that many nice, decent people smoke or smoked pot. Pot smokers tell me ALL THE TIME about how Carl Sagan smoked pot. But again, that makes it WORSE! Because they of ALL people should know better! Can't you see that??

Cindybin said...

And I have explained over and over that I'd have more sympathy for a strung out junkie than a nice, casual pot smoker. At least the junkie has an excuse; they are addicted and hopefully will get help and realize that they should never have used drugs in the first place. But casual pot smokers, just like casual booze drinkers, have no excuse. They can't even see why it's wrong and just plain immature to use mind-altering drugs. And that is what I try to tell these people online. I tell them that just because OTHER people may smoke pot or drink alcohol doesn't make it right and doesn't mean YOU have to! Aren't you better than that? Of course you are! I try to get them to THINK, to realize that there is a better way to live. So many people are sheep, just following the crowd, smoking pot out of peer pressure to fit in and not be called a goody goody (that's why my college roommate started smoking pot--she admitted this to me years later, when we were both mothers). The same is true for alcohol. People need to THINK, to set an example. And as I've said, pot is ILLEGAL. If you are breaking the law, you are hurting EVERYONE. All the crime and violence by the cartels trickles down and affects EVERYONE. I am so tired of people saying they aren't hurting anyone when they smoke pot. They are hurting us ALL. We should all be OUTRAGED at the casual users who keep the whole illegal drug trade in business. And they all blame the LAW rather than themselves. That is just ridiculous.

Cindybin said...

And just the fact that you keep focusing on the LAW rather than the pot smokers proves my point about why pot should be illegal forever, with very stiff penalties. My whole point is that if people would just shape up and NOT SMOKE POT, the whole legal issue would be moot! how hard is it to NOT SMOKE POT? Where would one even FIND this stuff? it is ILLEGAL! I've never even SEEN marijuana! That is why I was so shocked when we got the Internet about ten years ago and I found all these pot smokers on it. And all I did was make one little comment about how we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs, and all heck broke loose. It all escalated into THIS. And now that I have talked to so many people like you online, my eyes have been opened and I realize that pot should be illegal forever! You honestly think that if only I knew that nice, decent, successful people smoke pot, that I'd suddenly realize it's okay?? AARGGHHH! And no I do NOT think that all pot smokers want their kids to grow up and smoke pot! All I'm saying is that we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs! Again, what parent would ever raise their kids to grow up and smoke POT?? Why do you have to fight me on this? Why do you have to make this into such a big deal? Why can't you just commend me and support me for speaking up against drugs and trying to help people and make a difference in the world? If you guys all did that, I'd just go away! I wouldn't even be speaking up about this! But you all keep saying these outrageous, untrue things, and every time I answer you and think you all FINALLY understand, you all manage to top yourselves and say something even MORE ridiculous. Again, it all just proves my point about why we need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever!

Cindybin said...

Oh, and as I've said a billion times, if you get busted, it won't help to tell the judge that you have a good, high-paying job or that you get good grades or donate to charity or like little baby ducks. Where I live, the judge would laugh in your face and throw you in jail for making excuses for breaking the law! You would be a number in the court room and treated like DIRT. And THEN you will wish you had listened to dear, sweet, kind Cindybin who took time out of her busy day to help talk some sense into you out of love and concern!

69godslayer69 said...

Thank you for finally posting my comments. Now your readers can decide for themselves whether or not my comments are ridiculous. I trust that you will post this one as well for the same reason. I also thank you for responding in a civilized manor and explaining your opinions. Now maybe we can get somewhere.
First of all, people aren't going to just stop smoking pot. There is nothing wrong with an adult smoking marijuana.
It's a little difficult understanding why you are so passionately against legalizing marijuana. On the one hand, you say its not the marijuana itself, but the people who smoke it. Yet it infuriates you when someone mentions that descant, hardworking people smoke it. You say they should know better. Why? You say because they set a terrible example and go against everything most parents try to teach their kids. "Should parents tell their kids to get high?" You ask. No. Parents shouldn't tell their kids to get high. Just as parents shouldn't tell their kids to get drunk, smoke cigarettes, or watch porn. There are many privileges that adults have that aren't appropriate for kids. You also know descant people that used to smoke it, in which you didn't know until they told you years later. So I don't really understand what your against. If your not against marijuana but your against the people who smoke it. Then does that mean you want to outlaw pot smokers? Even though you know people who smoked and you are aware of the descant people who smoke?
As for people getting busted, having their lives ruined and a judge laughing at them...That just isn't the case in most states. Getting caught with a personal amount of marijuana will usually just get you a fine between 100 and 200 dollars. No court date, no jail time. It's about as life ruining as getting a speeding ticket.
You said that casual users are breaking the law, supporting the violent drug cartels  which affects everyone. Although you said your sick of hearing potheads blaming it on the law, I still feel I must mention a couple things because they are valid points. The war on drugs is responsible for the violent cartels very existence. Making marijuana illegal raises its price and pushes it into the black market, giving the cartels a high value commodity to sell, make money, and grow in power. However, because marijuana is a very versatile plant that can grow in many different climates, a lot of people just grow it themselves, indoor and outdoor.
Where would one find marijuana? Well, before the U.S. government outlawed the plant, it grew wild all across the country plentifully.
Finally, how does me focusing on the law rather than the pot smokers prove your point on why it should remain illegal with stiffer penalties? And what untrue things have pot smokers told you?

Cindybin said...

Aargghhh, you people are driving me nuts! Even after ALL I SAID, you still don't get it! You are still focusing on the law rather than the pot smokers, blaming the LAW for the drug war rather than the people who create the demand for drugs in the first place! My whole point is that if people would just shape up and NOT SMOKE POT, the whole legal issue would be moot! how hard is it to not smoke pot?? Where would one even find this stuff? I have never even SEEN marijuana! And if someone DOES get busted for pot, then whose fault is that?? What were they doing using illegal drugs?? And where I live, the laws are stiff! It won't help to tell the judge that in other areas of the country you only get a little fine! Kids lives have been ruined, they have to go to jail, they lose their chance at a college scholarship, they have a record, etc. Even if pot were legal it doesn't make it right. Oh, and because YOU way there's nothing wrong with smoking pot, then it must be true, eh? What am I supposed to do, tell God he is wrong? I have explained over and over that I'm a convert to the Mormon church and we have The Word of Wisdom which we believe to be direct revelation from God saying that alcohol, tea, coffee, cigarettes and mind-altering drugs like marijuana are not for the body. We are taught the moral and physical reasons to avoid using these things. This HELPS us! It was given to us in the latter days as part of God's restored church! Should I just tell God he is wrong, because some immature pot smoker online tells me it's okay to get high??

Cindybin said...

And as far as the untrue things pot smokers have told me, they ALWAYS say that I'm against pot because I think it's all dangerous and addictive and kills people and that I think that anybody who smokes pot is a stupid, lazy, good-for-nothing bum and that it will ruin your life. They all think that if only I knew how safe marijuana is and that they get good grades and have a good job and that people like Carl Sagan and Steve Jobs smoked pot, that I'd suddenly see the light and realize it's okay. This proves my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever! Can't you see that?? Just the fact that you and all the other pot smokers honestly think that if only I knew these things that I'd suddenly realize it's okay to get high proves my point about why pot should be illegal! Do we really want people like that walking around actually USING mind-altering drugs?? Heck no! I hope all the voters and lawmakers and doctors read your comments. If you could only hear yourself. And what you are telling me is stuff I have heard thousands of times over the years. You have no idea who you are dealing with. I have spoken up against pot for ten years online, and you people all say the same things. I never even used to THINK about marijuana before all this. But boy have you guys opened my eyes!

69godslayer69 said...

So it all boils down to your against it because of your belief in fairy tales. Because some imaginary god told you its bad. There may be some immature potheads, but they are no more immature than you. I did my best to try to understand your point of view. But now I understand why you are so irrational, hypocritical, illogical, and contradictory. Because you are a mormon. Religious indoctrination should be illegal. Its so sad to see innocent people like yourself fall prey to its evil mind control. You'll hear no more from me on this blog. There is no reasoning with religious people. Religion causes more damage than any mind altering substance.

Cindybin said...

Now see? You CONTINUE to prove my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever, with very stiff penalties. Again, it is not because of marijuana itself, but because of the people who use and defend it. Like you! I just KNEW that as soon as I mentioned my religion, you would respond this way. They all do. Of course you think that the ONLY reason I am against pot is because of my "belief in fairy tales." OH BROTHER. I have said over and over that I wasn't even religious in high school or college and I never smoked pot! My whole point is that a grown adult should be well past the age where they would want to use a mind-altering drug to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax and unwind, have "fun", enjoy life, etc. What a thing to do! And I only tell people about my religion to help them understand where I am coming from! You said that there is nothing wrong with smoking pot, well I told you about my religion because I know there IS something wrong with it! God himself says so! I can't just tell God he is wrong! But I always say that I am a CONVERT to the Mormon church and I never even smoked pot BEFORE I was Mormon! And my husband isn't Mormon and not even particularly religious and he would never smoke pot, and neither would any of our friends, religious or not! It just drives me nuts that every time I mention my religion, you guys use this against me and totally misunderstand everything!

Cindybin said...

And then of course you say you will refuse to say anything more about this to me on my blog, just because I mentioned my religion. It figures! You guys are ALWAYS like this. I bring up religion and you all either throw up your hands in disgust and refuse to say anything more, as if I'm some brainwashed FOOL that can't be reasoned with, OR you start spewing out all this wrong stuff about the Mormon church, things you have read and seen online that I read over 30 years ago when I was first trying to learn about the church. It just drives me nuts. I told you about my religion to HELP you, to get you to understand that there is a church out there that will help you see why we shouldn't use drugs. Don't you even want to know more about it? I was thrilled to learn about the Mormon church and the Word of Wisdom and how it HELPS us. It is GOOD to know these things. But as I've said, I wasn't even Mormon or religious in high school or college and I NEVER SMOKED POT. Oh it just drives me nuts that every single time I mention my religion to you guys, you all misunderstand it and accuse me of only being against pot because of my religion! THAT IS NOT TRUE!! And again, this CONFIRMS my point about why we all need to speak up against pot and why it should be illegal forever. Just the fact that you said all this stuff to me proves my point. You are just like all the others. You guys are all the same. Again, I hope all the lawmakers and voters in the world read your comments.

69godslayer69 said...

Peace be with you. At least you're not a christian. Christianity sickens me. It is pure evil. I actually have a little respect for mormons. You guys actually do practice what you preach and the mormons Ive met are genuinely nice people. I think your completely wrong with your views on marijuana, but oh well. Have a nice day.

Cindybin said...

What are you talking about? Mormons are Christian! We are more Christian than any other church! The full name of the church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It is the restored church in the latter days, restored by Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ.

And how can you STILL say I'm wrong about marijuana?? Oh this makes me furious. Even after ALL I SAID, you STILL can't see why a grown adult should be well past the age where they'd want to use a mind-altering drug to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax and unwind, have "fun", enjoy life, etc?? THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING! I say the same thing to casual booze drinkers! Alcohol is a drug! Just because it's legal doesn't make it right!

And you STILL can't see my point about blaming the law rather than the pot smokers?? You guys all say that we will never get people to stop smoking pot. That drives me nuts. My whole point is that just because other people may smoke pot doesn't make it right and doesn't mean YOU have to! Aren't you better than that? That's what I tell all these pot smokers I see online. They all think that because OTHER people smoke pot that it makes it okay, and they all think they have to try pot out of peer pressure to be cool, to prove they're not a goody goody. They are such sheep. I always had a mind of my own and never even THOUGHT about using drugs.

And just the fact that you blame the LAW for the drug war rather than the pot smokers proves my point about why pot should be illegal forever. As I said, I never even used to THINK about pot before all this. I never cared if it was legal or not, I never smoked pot so it didn't concern me. But you guys have opened my eyes! Now I see that it should be illegal forever. There is no way we should want to legalize drugs for the people who use and defend it like you! And have you SEEN the comments by pot smokers online? Have you seen the videos they make? You should read the emails they send me! It's enough to make anyone realize that pot should be illegal forever!!

69godslayer69 said...

Like I said, I no longer smoke it, because I no longer enjoy it. Your opinions prove nothing. Adults should know better? No. There is nothing wrong with an adult smoking weed, plain and simple. Absolutely nothing. My logical points do not prove your point at all. They prove my point. I can't believe after all I've said that you haven't changed your mind about marijuana. I actually can believe it because you are pretty closed minded. And fyi...most adults don't smoke weed cause of peer pressure. And you, a gullible believer of jesus christ, calling marijuana users "sheep" is hilarious. You have no valid points. And you actually have the opposite effect of your intentions. After reading your rediculous comments, I feel like smoking weed again.

Cindybin said...

"Godslayer", you are just horrible. Even after ALL I SAID, you still see nothing wrong with smoking pot?? Oh this makes me so mad. Here I was trying to HELP you, trying to get you to see the light, to GROW UP and realize that we shouldn't use mind-altering drugs recreationally, and you reject it! And you don't even smoke pot anymore! If you don't smoke pot, then you of ALL people should agree with me and support me! You set a terrible example and go against everything that most parents try to teach their kids about drugs and life! What parent would ever raise their kids to grow up and use drugs to get high? At any age? Most parents try to raise their kids with morals, values and common sense! Wouldn't you raise YOUR kids to know better than this? I should hope so!

And what am I supposed to do, tell God he is wrong? I explained to you that I'm a convert to the Mormon church and we have what we believe to be direct revelation from God saying that alcohol, tea, coffee, cigarettes and mind-altering drugs like marijuana are not for the body. I already prayed and asked God if the church is true. I have been a Mormon for over 30 years! And it makes me furious when you guys call me a "sheep". I am not the sheep! I have said over and over about how this was a HUGE decision for me, joining the church. Nobody in my family was Mormon, and I received flack from family and friends who believed weird things they had heard about the church. But I knew I had to join.

Cindybin said...

And when I say pot smokers are sheep, I am talking about the immature teens and young people who try pot out of peer pressure. My old college roommate admitted to me years later that she had tried it out of peer pressure, afraid of being called a goody goody. Most young people DO try it out of peer pressure. But they usually stop using drugs as they grow up and mature! My roommate and her friends stopped when they graduated, and all went on to get good jobs, raise families, and they of course taught their kids to avoid drugs, just as most parents do! And yes I KNOW that adults who try pot don't usually do so out of peer pressure! But how sad is it that a grown adult would want to use a mind-altering drug to get high and stoned? My whole point is that a grown adult should know more than anybody not to do this! And it is ILLEGAL! Where would they even find this stuff, and who are they that they're above the law, keeping the whole illegal drug trade in business? They should be ashamed of themselves! Again, people need to grow up and not use mind-altering drugs, legal or not. What a thing to do!

Elizabeth said...

You've said that you've never tried pot, or even seen it before in you life.

So, you assumed medical users would support you with anti-recreational use. But you were wrong, and most medical users support recreational use.

What does this tell you? This should be a sign that maybe pot isn't as bad as you thought. You don't truly know if pot is good or bad, you've never even SEEN cannabis.

Now, I know it's against your religion to ingest things like that into your body, and I doubt you'd want to anyways, so I'm not telling you to go try it, but at the very least you should try to respectfully listen and learn from the people who actually know what they're talking about. It upsets you that people say you're closed-minded, so maybe you should try being more open-minded. :)

Cindybin said...

Elizabeth, you MUST be a troll, only saying this to make me mad. But I will reply to you anyway, for the benefit of those who believe you are real. For the billionth time, I have said that you do not have to have tried pot to know that people use it to get high, stoned, buzzed, relax and unwind, have "fun", enjoy life, etc. Pot smokers ADMIT this to us all the time online, and we BELIEVE them when they tell us why they use it and how it affects them! And that is why we are against it! That is what makes it wrong! Can't you see that? Weren't you taught any morals, values or common sense???

And if most medical users support recreational use, then that is TERRIBLE! How can anybody possibly support medical use, then, if this is what these people are like?? Now you have made me against even MEDICAL MARIJUANA! Thank you!

Elizabeth said...

Sigh.
No, Cindy, I am not a troll. Just a person looking to change a few minds.

For one, make your mind up. I remember, I was staying with my friend, while she was in an argument with you on YouTube, and she explained to you that medical weed and normal weed were the same thing, the only difference being whether or not the user has their medical card. After she told you this, you became very upset, and said you were now against medicinal use as well. This was over a year ago. Over a year ago, Cindy… but now it’s apparently because of what I said that you’re against medicinal? If you’re going to lie, then you better watch yourself carefully. Get your story straight! Geez.

Secondly, why are you so shocked that I said a lot of medicinal users support recreational use? I was merely using points from what I’d just read from you. You were expressing how it was upsetting you that even medical users support recreational, when you thought they would support you. That’s just what YOU said.

You said you do not have to have tried pot to know that people use it to get high, have fun or relax. This is true…….. Except, as far as a LOT of people see, there is nothing wrong with using weed to have fun or relax.

You’re saying that this is the reason it’s wrong. It’s wrong because people can reap enjoyment and benefits out of it? That doesn’t make a shred of sense. No one is being harmed when someone is smoking pot. Even if they are not a medicinal marijuana patient, even recreational users can see an increase in their health and well-being while they are using pot.

Marijuana, and the use of it, recreationally or medicinally is NOT WRONG! It’s a wonderful thing that can help people in so many different ways, for different things. That can be anything from someone seeking medical help from the plant’s benefits, or even someone in a third world country using hemp to help construct their home. People need to stop living in the past and look at the advances in science and medicine that we’ve made surrounding marijuana. It’s helpful to us in so many ways, and does nothing to harm anyone. What is so wrong about that? I know you’re going to say adults should know better, blah blah blah….. but WHY should they know better, when there is nothing wrong with it in the first place?

Morpheous said...

Post all the comments you've received today and yesterday on this blog. It's time you stopped being a coward. I know for a fact the commenters didn't use foul language!